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NanoRaptor

Despite the 3.5" Magneto-Optical format's many advantages - A much larger, more reliable and resilient storage, bright backlight, and a high-resolution active matrix colour screen - it still failed to make inroads against sales of the older ubiquitous greyscale 3.5" floppy disk.

A picture of two disks on a beige background. On the left is a normal 3.5" floppy disk with a greyscale display showing the contents, and on the right is a Fujitsu 3.5" magneto-optical disk also showing the contents but with a colour backlit display.
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Cegorach

@NanoRaptor I'd buy a decent E-Book-Reader in 3.5" floppy design! :D

"slide to switch pages!"

Cal Alaera

@drazraeltod @NanoRaptor Double points if it makes floppy drive noises every time you switch pages!

Cegorach

@Cal @NanoRaptor tripple if you can read the current file in a floppy drive

Marcel Waldvogel

@drazraeltod @Cal @NanoRaptor If anyone makes one of those for a reasonsble price, count me in!

BTW: Actually, when I first saw the images above, I expected it to be a floppy emulator where you can switch virtual disks on the display…

Luigi :donor:

@NanoRaptor is this your design? I am in love with floppy with e-ink display that show their content for some sort of retrofuturistic fiction

Sean Eric Fagan

@NanoRaptor You are nearly as much a treasure as Chuck Tingle.

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@NanoRaptor hated both for the fact that the display was upside-down 😡

Raul Portales

@thatmanmatt @NanoRaptor it was upside down when you inserted them, but upside up in your classifiers.
The main advantage was to know what's inside before inserting them.
So much more convenient than labels that continually get outdated.

clacke: looking for something 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

@thatmanmatt The label is read when they're standing slider-down in the tray, not when you're about to insert them.

FITE ME

😇

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Phyxis

@NanoRaptor You joke, but the Franklin REX did "WtF" in PCMCIA form-factor, display spanning much of one flat side. :-)

lkngrrr

@NanoRaptor Oh, this is going to really mess with some childrens’ heads. I love it.

Tom Forsyth

@lkngrrr @NanoRaptor ChatGPT is just too mechanical and ugly. This is proper hand-crafted artisanal corruption of history.

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@NanoRaptor while it was briefly very popular, the Zip disk was relatively flash in the pan as it fell out of use, some citing its reliance on NTSC artifacting for color

Collin Allen

@NanoRaptor What most astounds me about these is your ability to match original photos’ noise. Or is it layered after the fact like Netflix’s film grain?

NanoRaptor

@command_tab A little of either/both depending on the source. With my iPhone 7's rubbish camera though, a little judicious use of Filter Gallery->Spatter gives just the right edge noise.

1-800-DAY-MARE

@NanoRaptor

I'd love a lil' e-ink screen that displays a pie chart of free disk space 👀

Haha

…might work for coffee…

@NanoRaptor
typical SONY product.
They had it all, just open it for data as well and ZIP-Drives would have not had a chance

But no. (the MD players are MO drives with 150ish MB)

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@mwfc @NanoRaptor They thought they figured it out and came up with Blu-ray, beating the HDDVD.

Unfortunately they're still greedy so once again it had no chance against even USB sticks in anything but a specific market. So it became a niche product once more (not as hard as last time, but still…).

Helgi Crookehorne

@Natanox @mwfc @NanoRaptor I have a thumbnail sized USB flash drive, and it looks 10 GB more than double layer Blu-ray disk so of course they can't compete with that if people have a PC with USB

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@Helgi @mwfc @NanoRaptor Nowadays, yeah. There would've been potential for more though, the licensing costs of those discs just weren't worth it.

Helgi Crookehorne

@Natanox @mwfc @NanoRaptor Sony just made use of those disks in their own Playstation, sometimes people can't just download 100 Gb of a game with their slow internet connection

…might work for coffee…

@Natanox
Yeah. In the 90s it had a niche until ca 2005 where it just was superior and limited needlessly.
Flash was just too expensive back then. I even had iomega click drives because cheaper than CF cards.
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Houl :blobfoxfloof:
@NanoRaptor wha- that was a thing? i thought this was just a joke at first
Z̈oé

@NanoRaptor oh my, imagine a MO disk caddy with e-ink that always shows its content

La malgranda feneko volas dormeti

@uint8_t@chaos.social @NanoRaptor@bitbang.social I've had occasional thoughts of making something sort of like Amazon's Snowball, and that is one of the things its e-ink display would do. (tl;dr if you haven't heard of the snowball before, a drive in a small impact hardened box with USB, WiFi, and Ethernet connectivity, and a small display for a mailing label; for sending files to our receiving files from Amazon. Pick up in mail, transfer files, drop back in the mail.)

Terry Allen 🇪🇺

@NanoRaptor when I was about 11 years old I thought I was going to become rich by building this!

Simon Zerafa :donor: :verified:

@NanoRaptor

That would be more that useful today, perhaps with an SSD or USB storage device 🙂

Monkeyface

@NanoRaptor
My first impression on this ppst.
is this fake or are my memories fake?
Or was i just too poor to get the *good* floppy disc

Marc Etienne

@NanoRaptor it was the battery draw and the restrictive licensing to OEM's that killed it. Also, some of the early models would randomly drop data.

Say what you will about the floppy, it was robust and it filled the need most had.

Sen

@NanoRaptor I remember some early (very chunky) external hard drives had a little LCD display showing how full they were, like a battery bar graph.

Andy Randall 🇺🇦

@NanoRaptor oh these were great. It was a shame the drives were so hard to find.

Salvo

@NanoRaptor so the 120 in LS-120 described the resolution of 120P.

That makes so much more sense now!

Alex Willmer

@Salvo @NanoRaptor 1.4 MB floppies were supposedly HD, but they just put a 540p screen on each side and said it was "interlaced"

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@NanoRaptor eInk floppies just had a nice tactile readability to them, they should have never added the backlight

Benjamin

@NanoRaptor Would really love a portable SSD with an e-Ink display that you can use as a label or a file listing of everything on the drive. Dockcase stuff kinda does this but only while it's plugged in which defeats the point a little.

Kit Bashir

@NanoRaptor @Unixbigot I checked my box in the basement but all I got are the e-paper kind and none of the displays seem to work any more.

Ian Tindale

@NanoRaptor@bitbang.social it was all due to battery life – the MO ones had cloud-based batteries and the subscription was too expensive

Saxnot 🚀38C3 reachable ☎️7296

@NanoRaptor this is fake right? A floppy with high res screen and battery? Seems anachronically

shine

@saxnot @NanoRaptor What I love is the fact that the battery was charged by a small generator powered by the motor in drive, it was quite cool tech back then.

Darren

LB: I'm currently fighting inside my own head, trying to figure out a justification for the existence of these in the modern world.

Imagine a USB drive that had an e-ink screen so you could see what was on it without having to plug it in? I'd love that.

Tane Piper ⁂

@DJDarren My question is how did these things exist and yet we still had to suffer from ZIP Drives.

KarlE

@NanoRaptor in the 90s, I had a 230MB MO drive and a few packets of disks, but none of them had a display on it, never mind colour and backlit! I must have been conned.
It was the superior technology compared to zip and syquest, and media were cheaper but the drives were quite expensive.

In a business environment, the 5.25" MOs and the variant WORMs had quite a market as an archiving solution, huge jukeboxes were built before HDD capacities overtook them.

0x10f

@NanoRaptor The CH logo on ordinary floppy disks stands for "CHunky video memory layout" - a prerequisite for fast action games like Doom.

Kevin Lyda

@NanoRaptor Oh man.

Now I'm imaging someone making one of these.

Or maybe a 3.5" floppy form factor so you can build a home cluster in an old floppy disk storage box.

doephin

@mondanzo @NanoRaptor the 5.25 vector disk screens were fragile and had to be protected from insertion, so they only worked "upside down". After that, it stuck

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