Gregory's Server@danluu are hardware makers also terrible at hardware but it’s just harder for the average person to tell 🤔
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 A lot of software makers (especially, in my experience, for the enterprise market) are also terrible at software. We as a species are bad at software. (The ghost of Edsger W. Dijkstra is standing right behind me when I say that, isn't he? He always finds a way to loom up in times like this.)   @passenger @nuthatch @danluu Yeah I was going to say that my "I need a walk" moments with third-party code doesn't seem to correlate with whether or not they're a hardware company. @scottmichaud @nuthatch @danluu In fairness, the worst software I've ever used, without exception, has been internal-only stuff. @passenger @nuthatch @danluu What we're really bad at is testing code. I see that screen, and the first thing I think is "someone didn't let QA do their job." 1. Car manufacturers do a pretty good job with their software, most of the time. None of my family's vehicles have had any major software problems. Everything just works as it is supposed to. 2. Hardware manufacturers are largely not terrible at software, you probably notice it more when they are. 3. Hardware is difficult to make. Most hardware manufacturers are actually pretty good at it.  |
@nuthatch @danluu I think it is about equally easy/difficult for the average person to tell, you just happen to be a software person.