@nixCraft I must be going crazy. I thought Wayland used X11 under the hood.

@nixCraft both: laptop with gnome (Wayland), PC with plasma (X11)

@nixCraft@mastodon.social Does wayland even exist for UNIX?

@nixCraft both. X11 at home where I game, Wayland at work where I'm adjusting to it before Red Hat kills off X11.

@nixCraft Wayland is not a windowing system but a compositor afaik

@nixCraft Wayland > X11? Wow! I wouldn't have thought!

@nixCraft Still on X11 because Cinammon.

@nixCraft I recently switched over to Wayland to get MINOS2, my GUI library for Forth, up and running there. It mostly works now, still has a few glitches, and the text input manager is very crash-prone, and I'm probably doing something slightly different only. I think it's not completely ready, but close.

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is there a tool like Xpad that works under Wayland?
I have tried some, but they are not comparable (Rhinote)

@nixCraft Wayland, except when I need to share my screen over Zoom.

I learned from that mistake.

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X11 because I need proper graphics tablet support and color management. Also because of issues with Krita.

@nixCraft I don’t know, don’t care

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im still migrating.

@nixCraft X11.

Wlroots works like shit and the only wayland compositor that has the features I need uses wlroots. So until I make my own compositor (or someone decides to port wayfire to something else, such as louvre) I’ll stay on X11.

@nixCraft I know it's weird, but I don't know what's happening. I'm using an LTS version of Ubuntu at home and really just use it-- I don't open the hood much at all. I don't remember being given an option when I installed.

@nixCraft XFCE on the laptop and an Nvidia card in the desktop. Some day Wayland will make more sense for my use case, that just isn't today.

@nixCraft Should a user even know?

@nixCraft@mastodon.social I use X11 because of novideo

@nixCraft Tbh the only reason I haven’t switched to Wayland is because I think Sway sucks in comparison to i3 and I really don’t want to go DE hopping again.

@nixCraft third option: I don't know

@nixCraft You need to add "both" option.

@nixCraft I switched back to X11 when discovering Shutter (my preferred screenshot tool) didn't work well under Wayland (maybe it does now, I should check).

@nixCraft I actually would like to switch to Wayland but #VirtualBox glitches prevent me from doing so

@nixCraft Curses

@nixCraft I miss a third option: "I don't know, I don't care. I just use Linux".

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I mostly use Wayland, though I sometimes switch back if a game is running poorly on Wayland

@nixCraft macOS Finder

@nixCraft wow, I was not expecting such an even split. I wonder if it will change when Ubuntu ships Wayland as the default.

@nixCraft Been on GNOME/Wayland ever since Debian started supporting it as a session.

@nixCraft I'm experimenting with #wayland, but still too much issues for everyday work.

@nixCraft Would I be able to tell the difference? (usage only)

@nixCraft X11 just works and works well. I have never seen anything as to how well Wayland works with X11 software such as emacs.

@nixCraft X11 ist still alive? Like GRUB and crontab? :D

@nixCraft Both really.
X11 Pop!_OS (Nvidia)
Wayland Ubuntu Sway Remix (Nvidia)

@nixCraft tried to use wayland, but some apps are shown by the default icon. After years. Boh! Very annoying (in KDE)

@nixCraft Looks like Wayland is taking on X11 to be the #1 display server.

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Fluxbox, baby.

@nixCraft Wayland, because the kids tell me too, but I'm grumpy about my lawn. Hit a bug with Chrome a couple of days ago where one window didn't see input, and a covered window sometimes saw it instead (including "window manager decorations") and I gotta think that specific bug couldn't have happened under X11

@nixCraft i use both

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Got it right this time.

@nixCraft I'll stick with X11 until the full Plasma 6 release and hopefully its in a more usable state with Nvidia. There are just too many small issues that makes it unusable for me right now.

@nixCraft TBH I have no idea, and why should I care? 🤔