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"Susan Sontag... did get off one sound bite in an interview on television, which was to me a stunning sermon in and of itself. She was asked what she had learned from the Holocaust, and she said that 10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80 percent could be moved in either direction." -Kurt Vonnegut 46 comments
   @RustyBertrand In 2023 and in America I'd say it's 10% are merciful and 60% are cruel and the other 30% are also cruel.  @RustyBertrand personally I believe that 20% of people are deeply stupid and could believe anything for any reason. 1 in 5 won't make any sense to you and are likely to believe or not believe in facts based on who they like. Weaponize the stupid by uniting them, get another 20% who were busy and don't know what is going on but will back whatever seems popular, and 40% support is enough to stop any plan, a few more % (42-45) and you can do anything. @Urban_Hermit @RustyBertrand How can you help the stupid without offending them at the same time? A difficult issue. Obviously some find it easier and more profitable to lie to and deceive them. Being honest with them is a thankless and unpromising task but somehow we need to rebuild a more honest, understanding, and kind society. @nicolegoebel @RustyBertrand I don't think we can fix the 20%. I had a friend who argued a guy out of his belief in chemtrails in 20 minutes, but my friend was already friendly and respected in that work place and a guy who can believe the government puts mind control chemicals in jet fuel, and then not 20 minutes later, can switch back after his next YT video. I think we have to consider 60% support a solid win and not hold up legislation for absolute consensus. @Urban_Hermit @RustyBertrand That also sounds like serious psychological problems. It simply doesn't have enough resources for people's mental health. @nicolegoebel @RustyBertrand sometimes a history of drug use, or mental problems, or both, leads to mild impairment that could be classified as just "a little off" with paranoia mixed in. I worked there too, and maybe 40% of the people who worked at that level believed in some sort of evil conspiracy. I'm glad I was out before Qanon started. But these guys built electrical cabinets to print, so believing crazy things doesn't mean too mentally ill to be employed.  @RustyBertrand Good people will always do good and evil people will always do evil. For a good person to do evil--that takes religion.--Steven Weinberg (paraphrased, I'm not fully eidetic) @RustyBertrand I fear his numbers were too optimistic. I’d say it’s more like 20-30% on either end. @davidtoddmccarty @RustyBertrand I come down between 10-30%. 1 in 3 does have mental problems  Those numbers don't seem to fit America nowadays. The 10 percent good maybe, but the election of trump, and since then, the percentage of evil sure seems higher.  What happens is that the two sets of 10% fight each other over the 80%, but the good side has things like morals that prevent them from telling too many pleasant lies, while the bad side screams out anything they need to as loudly as they can. So more people in the middle hear the bad side than the good.  @RustyBertrand @AE4WX My experience has been 20% cruel, 20% good, 50% swayable, and 10% happy to sell you a ticket to the throwdown. Maybe if we could get the proper attribution for the quote. It's Kurt Vonnegut that shared the quote, but it was Susan Sontag that he is quoting. @RustyBertrand Wonder if that ties in a bit with this:  @Crowpine because it is a cult. The cruel 10% drew the rest in. The kind, you can see being attacked for their anti genocidal views.  @RustyBertrand  @RustyBertrand @RustyBertrand And we are seeing this on US soil 2016-2023. The EVIL began. 'The Rise of Hitler' playbook I never thought to ever see on US soil. jh, US Army Veteran SGT Investigator NATO 74-77. I learnned all about Nazi SS (MAGA) in Germany 6 years. Disgusting. Evil. Too easy to BRAINWASH citizens. 74 million USA. CULT @RustyBertrand  @RustyBertrand A perfect layperson's understanding of the Milgram Obedience study.  @RustyBertrand @aral Shouldn’t Sontag be credited with the quote, since she said it? @RustyBertrand Though I'm afraid in Israel the vast percentage has been moved in the cruel direction. @RustyBertrand@mastodon. In other words, most of us learned that Nazi policies ruined Germany and caused tens of millions to violently die. But for some Hitler is to be studied and improved upon. For them widespread death and ruination are acceptable venture risks. Perhaps this is why so many of that cruel 10 percent already have their own bunkers. |
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