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Tube❄️Time

then i add a few parts to the schematic, place a few footprints on the layout, and start hooking up wires. i'm starting with +5V and ground since those are easy.

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Tube❄️Time

so i just add a wire at a time to the schematic, propagate it to the layout, and make sure that it matches the existing traces. if there is any ambiguity, i just move on to the next trace. eventually i use a process of logical deduction to resolve that.

Tube❄️Time

here's the board in KiCad. there's only one little problem now...

Tube❄️Time

one of the chips is a mystery chip -- it has been marked "862130" but that is not the real part number.

Tube❄️Time

the person who owns this board pulled the chip out and found this underneath! how rude... 😆

backside of a DIP IC marked in pencil "you nosey s.o.b."
Tube❄️Time

these are the pin connections i've deduced based on the rest of the board design. this chip seems to take over the Apple II's address lines and it copies sound samples over to the four DACs on the card. almost like a DMA controller. hmmmmmmmmmmm. 🤔

Tube❄️Time

i've got it! it perfectly matches the pinout of the MC6844 DMA controller! mystery solved.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

boards are on order, so stay tuned.

Scott replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime that’s almost suspiciously quick!

Tony Arcieri 🌹🦀 replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime you’ve heard of an op amp but what about a pop amp???

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

got some parts in from China, but I need to test them to see if they actually work. they've been painted and remarked (of course 😑)

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

the ADC was tricky to test. one of them was bad and had some stuck outputs.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

I wonder if it'll work? I'll have to fire up the Apple II to find out.

Chris Snyder replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime I like the “Apple II goes here” silkscreen.

Rue Mohr replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime "Apple II goes here" ok, now I know you made it... I can guess its a super-rare IIe card that nobody has seen the likes of since the day after it came out...

Benjohn replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime :-) Amazing. Before buying are you able to simulate the board, and is that useful?

Tube❄️Time replied to Benjohn

@benjohn there aren't any models of the larger chips. it's easier to just make the board and try it out irl!

Mäh replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime 👏 Nice, how did you find it?

David W. Jones

@tubetime I used to have an old Xenix multi-user system that contained a *lot* of chips. Like a full megabyte of memory on a single board (12" square) with dozens of chips. Plus chips on the mainboard, chips supporting the system bus...
While I never wondered what was under them, I was sorely tempted to unsolder them, stick antennae and googly eyes on them, and sell them on Etsy as "computer bugs"...
Thanks for the memory.

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