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Florian Weber

@Sbectol @brembs What’s the issue you’re hinting at? Analogous to how you’re holding presentations and giving seminars in the physical space of your employer (on campus), it would make sense to also communicate and present via your employers digital infrastructure (their ActivityPub servers), no?

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Björn Brembs

@fnwbr @Sbectol
Was wondering the same thing? What should we pay attention to if we, e.g., use university email?

Sbectol :twt:

@brembs @fnwbr I think we need to think about *how* one is using social media.

On mastodon, everything including direct messages are available to the admin of the instance, there is no privacy. Which may mean one uses it differently to the way one might have used twitter, especially if the instance is owned by an employer.

Björn Brembs

@Sbectol @fnwbr

Fair enough. Technically, this is not all too different from Email.

I always tell my daughter (13) that anything she would not be comfortable shouting on a town square, she should not be posting. 😇

Sbectol :twt:

@brembs @fnwbr personally I would only use university/employers mastodon instances for “broadcasting” science

There is too much risk, in my opinion, associated with using it for any personal interaction.

Of course, one of the good things about the Fediverse is the ability to have multiple accounts for different purposes.

Sbectol :twt:

@brembs @fnwbr there are also important differences to university email servers in the way the service works.

For one thing there’s the whole technical issue of *how* and *who* your employers instance federates with. It’s an open system, which email isn’t.

Then there’s the whole issue of *how* your instance is moderated and how it deals with for example bullying within your uni and with external people.

Björn Brembs

@Sbectol @fnwbr

Ah, yes, interesting aspect I hadn't thought of. This may be very different between universities, depending on how much faculty would be involved in such decisions.

I see interesting "Mastodon comittee" meetings coming up 😆

Sbectol :twt:

@brembs @fnwbr in essence the fediverse means taking on the admin responsibilities we once we happy for twitter to do (for example with respect of security and safety). A question researchers need to think about is whether the university is really capable of doing that.

For me that’s several levels higher than for email. Hence one needs to think it through carefully, ideally with the labour union.

Björn Brembs

@Sbectol @fnwbr

It seems to me you have a point there. More reasons to have a "Mastodon committee". Tying in @leonido here who may enlighten us how his university is handling these issues?

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@brembs @Sbectol @fnwbr @leonido

if the instance is also open to use by undergraduate students, at least in UK a portion of them could well be minors (its not that uncommon for an intelligent pupil to move up a school year and thus complete their A-levels and go up to University at age 17) - which would also create further safeguarding requirements..

Sbectol :twt:

@vfrmedia there are lots of resources available about running a mastodon/fediverse instance. There’s not a lot I’ve seen specifically about the issues with a large (or fairly large) one run by a university.

@brembs @fnwbr @leonido

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@Sbectol

I've seen a few uni instances on Mastodon since 2017, mostly from Northern European countries; but many seem to be mostly only used by academics and/or as a PR/marketing vehicle for the University (not that its a bad thing, they often toot some interesting stuff)

@brembs @fnwbr @leonido

Sbectol :twt: replied to Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@vfrmedia for sure I’ve no issues with that either.

I think the issues are more concentrated when researchers are encouraged to join and use the instance (so it becomes much wider than the uni marketing itself)

@brembs @fnwbr @leonido

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK replied to Sbectol

@Sbectol @brembs @fnwbr @leonido

The Netherlands already has a Mastodon instance for Universities to use (including students), the way this is run seems to be a good way to start..

social.edu.nl/about

Knut Morå

@Sbectol @brembs @fnwbr To emphasize this, my experience is that universities are racing to offload the responsibility to host their own email servers also, I would be very happy to see this trend reversed

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