@marcan I work on the lowest possible level, loved it when the frame buffer was directly useable and not some fakey simulated thing? I now rely on xcb and just the copy/mapping/image stuff. XCB works on wayland(grammatically spoken or not) except resizing, if that gets fixed I will use wayland, yeah I know, it's not an api. Comment remains. Love not using fonts, love not using anything but sockets, see pinned stuff