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DasMammut

@da_667 @mhoye #Oracle gives precise error codes which help in solving the problem.

#Microsoft just gives stupid messages like 'It doesn't work right now. We don't know why (maybe they know but they won't tell you). Try again tomorrow or ask your administrator' - Fuck: I'm the administrator - so whom can I ask !?! 🤯

Unfortunately, many people copy the Microsoft style of error messages 😞

1 Nov 2023 at 15:11 | Wall-to-wall | Open on rollenspiel.social
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da_667

@rkbw @mhoye Yeah, see, thats a place where its an unintuitive mess because Microsoft is fucking awful.

But generally speaking, bluescreens have error codes that will at least point you in a general direction for search engine troubleshooting. Additionally the event viewer has become a fallback of mine. Look for Critical failures, Errors, followed by warnings.

Again, I fully acknowledge that it sucks and is unintuitive and fully agree that improvements would be effin' great.

1 Nov 2023 at 15:14 | Open on infosec.exchange
DasMammut

@da_667 @mhoye When e.g. Windows updates failed I *never* have been able to learn something useful from the error code - if one was given at all 🤯

1 Nov 2023 at 15:18 | Open on rollenspiel.social
da_667

@rkbw l Well, I've been there before and I have found results from failed windows updates that lead to solutions. But just as well I've had labyrinthine, serial problems with some Linux-based software stacks/applications/software updates where, you have no indication that anything is wrong, right up until you get random crashdumps while the program is running. I'm not arguing against better error messages and documentation.

But anecdotal experiences are anecdotal experiences. What if I told you that I haven't had a blue screen of death in over 7 years across two major Windows operating systems?

@rkbw l Well, I've been there before and I have found results from failed windows updates that lead to solutions. But just as well I've had labyrinthine, serial problems with some Linux-based software stacks/applications/software updates where, you have no indication that anything is wrong, right up until you get random crashdumps while the program is running. I'm not arguing against better error messages and documentation.

1 Nov 2023 at 15:23 | Open on infosec.exchange
Bee O'Problem

@rkbw @da_667 @mhoye sadly Microsoft used to give quite useful errors back in the 9x and XP days. Then Apple marketing shit on them in ads for having "scary looking" technical error messages (alongside shitting on them for growing pains over implementing a proper security model).

So now it's all useless "friendly" errors that are completely useless for doing much of any troubleshooting.

2 Nov 2023 at 0:29 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
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