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Oliver Herold

@i0null It is to some degree true, but even a human being has to learn and memorizes pictures, text etc. pp. There is no artist which doesn't build on the work of other artists.

26 Oct 2023 at 8:32 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.tchncs.de
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Bersl

@oliverherold @i0null A human artist is capable of crediting the artist whose work inspired them. And I'm being generous with the use of "inspired" here with respect to generative programs.

26 Oct 2023 at 14:31 | Open on furry.engineer
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@bersl2 @oliverherold If generative models are able to attribute it could have the potential to be the other way round. At least then it would be possible to seek permission and/or compensate contributors for commercially derived works. I say the other way because I know several books and training courses that essentially profit from someone else’s material and often don’t even acknowledge the original works.

26 Oct 2023 at 15:24 | Open on infosec.exchange
Bersl

@i0null @oliverherold Certainly it's still a problem in human contexts sometimes. But a machine ought to do *better* than a human.

Honestly, though, my problem has never been with the technology but with the humans making and misanthropically profiting off the dehumanizing uses of the technology, especially the generative models. But if AI proponents aren't going to take the misuse issues seriously, then there's no other choice available but to shun the tech directly, because computers can be made to be abusive on an industrial scale, and that's exactly what generative models are poised to do.

I don't like having to make this argument. You don't like hearing this argument. Let's do something about it. Confront the obvious problem people and groups in the field.

@i0null @oliverherold Certainly it's still a problem in human contexts sometimes. But a machine ought to do *better* than a human.

Honestly, though, my problem has never been with the technology but with the humans making and misanthropically profiting off the dehumanizing uses of the technology, especially the generative models. But if AI proponents aren't going to take the misuse issues seriously, then there's no other choice available but to shun the tech directly, because computers can be made...

26 Oct 2023 at 18:35 | Open on furry.engineer
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