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Grant Gulovsen

Oh hey look another updated terms and conditions for a software provider (this time Mailchimp) that lets them use your sh*t to train their AI. πŸ™„

#AI #law #privacy #Mailchimp

23 comments
John Breen

@gulovsen I always wanted to try out something like emailing this to a SaaS provider.
"By allowing me to use your service, you agree that I can ingest the content of your website and use it to train my AI model"
Why is that any less binding than a TOS change notification ?
Other than the fact that you give MailChimp your private data, and maybe they don't care about their IP, as long as they can sell your data...
Do people pay for MailChimp service and still get this treatment ?

Grant Gulovsen

@jab01701mid In response to your question, "Do people pay for MailChimp service and still get this treatment?" the answer is a resounding "yes."

Tony Novak CPA

@gulovsen Yes, I also noticed earlier today. Do you think that small business users have reason for concern? I am convinced that Intuit is hell bent on world domination, but I see no clear threat to small businesses.

Grant Gulovsen

@Onlineadviser Not necessarily - I just find the whole thing annoying more than anything.

Joan Westenberg

@gulovsen At this point, every TOS update basically translates into β€œEither you let us fuck you or you're fucked”

Zen Heathen

@gulovsen Fuck. That. Shit.

Even if nothing else, this would give them legal right to display all your email out to the world with no recourse. *EXCUSE ME?!@?!?!*

Leif Davisson

@gulovsen would you yell at a racoon for eating some else's garbage

Bowreality

@gulovsen Shit. What’s a good alternative??

Noah Bailey

@gulovsen the funniest part about this is that the end result will be the goofiest and most useless generative model ever. Who the hell buys a model exclusively trained on the kind of annoying and naggy crap that gets sent through mailchimp? β€œWow, this one can hallucinate broken click-through trackers!!”

kevin

@gulovsen the only thing worse than biting into an apple and finding a worm, is biting into an apple and not finding a worm.

EVHaste

@gulovsen

I hearby grant all corporations (and their agents, employees, officers, directors, independent contractors, affiliates, subsidiaries, and representatives) a worldwide, non-exclusive, irrevocable, transferable, royalty-free, fully paid-up, sub licensable license to kiss my fucking ass.

Peter Toft JΓΈlving

@gulovsen
Worldwide, non-revokable, we-can-do-anything and we-can-let-others-do-anything with your IP if you use the model. That's insane.

scattershot

@gulovsen it all just makes me want to stop going on the internet at all.

Zatty :meowybara:

@gulovsen it explicitly says "Inputs and Outputs" to the AI model. If you write stuff yourself or copy/paste it into emails, this doesn't apply.

DELETED

@gulovsen all your base are belong to us terms and conditions

Boriel

@gulovsen That looks atrocious and plain unacceptable to me. πŸ™„

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