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@mcc I’m not sure. They said something in 2017 about planning to excise XUL (which, yes, 💯). But I can’t find a release since then with a formal declaration that the work has been done. (I’m not an active SeaMonkey user myself, so all I know is what I read on their web site.) 6 comments
 @jalefkowit @mcc the problem with SeaMonkey was that the UI was terrible and the interaction design was terrible and the bloatedness of the "suite" idiom did make it a little worse, but it was much more a symptom of the disease than the cause @jalefkowit @mcc anyway I say this because while firefox was unambiguously vastly better, the abandonment of composer as part of the functionality of a browser was symbolic of a move from a world where we wanted everyone to be able to take control of HTML editing and website design, to a world where users used browsers and serious web developers used development tools and there was no overlap between these populations. once again, symptom not a cause, but it would have been nice if they'd tried @glyph @mcc All good points that I wouldn’t disagree with, though I would offer some caveats re Composer. I wrote them up in another reply over here: https://octodon.social/@jalefkowit/111220313478654220 @jalefkowit @mcc yeah, agreed with that take as well. the margins of this text field cannot readily contain the amount I could rant about the complexities of the history of markup authoring toolchain development  it should also be noted that while SeaMonkey was really heavy for its time, I have doubts on how much this was due to it being a suite. Both Opera before the switch to Blink, and Vivaldi now, were/are pretty complete Internet suites (even though they do lack something like Composer) and are much sleeker. |
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@jalefkowit @mcc I do still kinda have some nostalgia for Composer. The whole "suite" idea gets a bit of a bad rap, I think; MS Office (and, heck, iWork) is a "suite" and nobody has problems with that, because it still presents the elementts of its suite as normal applications and not as a single fused block of functionality that is inexplicably built as its own launcher.