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WMan22

This sucks so much. I kept telling numerous people " #discord is NOT a forum, it is an IRC app, stop building your communities in it around stuff that needs to be found with a search engine and archived, it's a bad idea for numerous reasons including the overpopulation of server topics in an app that has a 100 server limit" but nobody listened. I hate being right.

We're about to have yet ANOTHER internet library of alexandria situation assuming this shit retroactively applies to existing stuff.
29 Sep 2023 at 19:50 | Open on silversword.online
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Nik0 :coolified:

@WMan22 Hopefully devs realize this just before next year

2 Oct 2023 at 14:03 | Open on mstdn.social
malba

@WMan22 That's currently just a rumor, as far as I can tell. Could be true, could be fake.

2 Oct 2023 at 14:08 | Open on mstdn.social
Matt

@malba @WMan22 this is definitely real - go copy any link from Discord to see the parameters, and Discord themselves have made an official announcement in a dev server regarding "CDN abuse"

To be clear - no files will be deleted but any hot linking (which people do a lot...) Will break and so many resources outside of Discord will be lost.

2 Oct 2023 at 16:54 | Open on mastodon.social
malba

@mattswift @WMan22 Unless you have a publically accessible link to an official announcement by Discord, it's still a rumor.

2 Oct 2023 at 18:35 | Open on mstdn.social
NeonkAaa

@WMan22
Oh, well, who cares?
Something older than a week is about the time of dinosaurs!

2 Oct 2023 at 14:11 | Open on sns.neonka.info
WMan22

@nk I know you're being facetious don't worry, but there are people who sincerely think like this and it sucks because some of the discords I'm in hold valuable information such as the Source 2 modding hub, and some of the information is in images that are over a year old, such as how to get a non-hostile NPC to stare in your direction while not moving. Like, until this mastodon post you can't reverse google image search this.
5 Oct 2023 at 3:19 | Open on silversword.online
__Miguel_

@WMan22 What do you mean, it's a bad idea to put unique information in a place you can't index on archive.org, or that will just go "puff" without a chance of getting saved if the underlying service collapses?

I'd say "nothing of importance will be lost", but...*gestures towards the picture*

2 Oct 2023 at 14:46 | Open on tech.lgbt
menisadi :verified:

@WMan22 People really have a hard time finding a suitable platform for forums. The majority simply go to instant messaging software like WhatsApp and the files are swallowed up in the stream of conversations forever.

2 Oct 2023 at 14:50 | Open on tooot.im
Rasmus Lindegaard

@WMan22 discord is a very good IM app, but it is being abused horribly for everything.

2 Oct 2023 at 15:04 | Open on fosstodon.org
Adam Honse

@WMan22 The enshittification of the corporate Internet continues...

2 Oct 2023 at 15:05 | Open on mastodon.social
Ticktok

@WMan22 I'm actually thrilled about this change because maybe people/groups/COMPANIES! will find a better place to host their files.
Hopefully the data that is in there is transfered, but at this point since it's in a difficult to search walled garden it's like it doesn't exist most of the time anyway.

2 Oct 2023 at 16:17 | Open on fosstodon.org
Matt

@ticktok @WMan22 I suspect what will happen is not this, but just more "join my discord to see the images / files" :/

2 Oct 2023 at 16:55 | Open on mastodon.social
Ticktok

@mattswift @WMan22 oh, I guess I misunderstood the post. I thought it was saying the discord would no longer be permanently hosting files at all, so even if you joined the discord they'd go away.
As it is now even if you do get a link to a file in discord you have to join the server to get it regardless.

3 Oct 2023 at 1:07 | Open on fosstodon.org
Blake Leonard

@WMan22@silversword.online We definitely need a forum software that's as easy to use, spin up, and moderate as Discord. Right now, you have to have a sysadmin on board or pay a fee you might not be able to afford (especially in open source) to set up a forum; plus, a lot of the younger (gen alpha, younger gen Z) crowd doesn't know how to use a forum.

For open source downloads, why anyone would use Discord over GitHub for releases is anyone's guess. (Putting testing builds there is acceptable, but definitely not preferred.)

Hell, GitHub Discussions is a thing. It would be better to put support there! I think the pull of Discord though, is in part that most people already have it so you don't have to make a new account for it.

I wish GitHub didn't buy Spectrum.chat and they actually made it usably fast. That was pretty much a forum in a Discord style, and it was -- apart from being painfully slow -- really nice to use, and publicly accessible and searchable too.

@WMan22@silversword.online We definitely need a forum software that's as easy to use, spin up, and moderate as Discord. Right now, you have to have a sysadmin on board or pay a fee you might not be able to afford (especially in open source) to set up a forum; plus, a lot of the younger (gen alpha, younger gen Z) crowd doesn't know how to use a forum.

For open source downloads, why anyone would use Discord over GitHub for releases is anyone's guess. (Putting testing builds there is acceptable, but...

2 Oct 2023 at 16:24 | Open on infosec.town
Jes

@WMan22@silversword.online I use send.vis.ee when I need to send files
discord is woefully inadequate for file share anyways

2 Oct 2023 at 17:03 | Open on sunisky.club
DarkFox 🌻:autism:

@WMan22 I'd love to boost your post, but the image is missing a description for blind and vision impaired users.

I've written one for you to add to the image by editing your post:

Screenshot of a post by twilight-spakle-irl:

discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

if you haven't noticed, copying a link for a file now appends special parameters to the end. these are a request signature, which indicates a specific request for that file. this request will expires after a few hours, so files will no longer be permanently available through a specific url.

while they are not currently necessary to view the file, they will be by the end of the year, assuming nothing changes.

please check that any websites you rely on are not hosting files through cdn.discordapp.com, and if they are, please archive those files through the IA using web.archive.org/save

thank you for your time

@WMan22 I'd love to boost your post, but the image is missing a description for blind and vision impaired users.

I've written one for you to add to the image by editing your post:

Screenshot of a post by twilight-spakle-irl:

discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

if you haven't noticed, copying a link for a file now appends special parameters to the end. these are a request signature, which indicates a specific request for that file. this request will expires after...

2 Oct 2023 at 18:07 | Open on tech.lgbt
Stylus πŸ¦‰

@WMan22 that stinks. I just checked and archive.org successfully archived a PDF from discord so that's a way forward for whatever gets noticed in time...

3 Oct 2023 at 0:07 | Open on octodon.social
Nazo

@WMan22 What really bugs me is I see many things moving technical support and such over to Discord only. And one key difference between Discord and actual IRC is that IRC at least is basically open. Discord is not...

And yeah, there's no way it wouldn't be retroactive. Clearly they want to reduce overall bandwidth costs.

3 Oct 2023 at 0:53 | Open on mastodon.social
MaxTheFox

@WMan22 Still pretty bad but not as bad as it could be.
3 Oct 2023 at 1:54 | Open on spacey.space
Gecko

@WMan22 Tbh, kinda surprised it took them this long to change it. Their file service is essentially a frontend to gcloud object storage so people abusing discord for file storage are essentially driving up Discord's gcloud bill.

3 Oct 2023 at 8:47 | Open on fosstodon.org
Ray Of Sunlight

@WMan22 you got your mouth full of reason, dude.

3 Oct 2023 at 14:43 | Open on mastodon.social
tillian πŸ¦ŠπŸ¦‡πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ:antifa: ACAB

@WMan22 people are so fucking ignorant i swear to god

3 Oct 2023 at 18:01 | Open on plush.city
LinuxUserGD
mmu_man

@WMan22 Discord is *not* IRC, it's much worse: you need an account to connect, which you don't need for IRC.

7 Oct 2023 at 12:25 | Open on m.g3l.org
Kevin Karhan :verified:

@WMan22 +9001%

To me it's absurd that people ever used #Discord when #Github, #Mumble, #IRC & Co. all predated it.

The sheer fact that their ToS are inacceptable and that they actively ban better 3rd party clients as well as #loginwall all content makes it useless for any #FLOSS projects.

mstdn.social/@kkarhan/11119405

7 Oct 2023 at 13:52 | Open on mstdn.social
Dogzilla

@WMan22 I get that the internet finds its own uses for things, but building communities (especially tech support communities) around Discord just seems insane - it’s such a poor tool for those uses and far better alternatives exist.

How did Discord even become popular for this? Is it just gamers who wanted a Slack clone?

7 Oct 2023 at 14:15 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org
I. E. LaBailey
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