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HistoPol (#HP)

@raphaelmorgan

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...US based services. Of course, China and Russia are even worse (see my TL.)

That said, I'd like to reach a consensus, which of the apps, and there is an interesting French librarian post here that has more alternatives, is the best option for most that are willing to invest the 5 bucks (if necessary)and a bit of time, but are no techies and want to include their non-tech savvy family and friends.

I guess hardly anybody will have a smartphone that is not connected to..

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HistoPol (#HP)

@raphaelmorgan

(3/4)

...a playstore. Yes, paying with a credit card or mobile payment like PayPal or ApplePay is a traceable action. Having the app might be an issue in some countries and might become one, if the French justice ministry gets its way (all e2ee is suspicious--see TL,) but what kind of world will we be living in, if owning an e2ee messenger app becomes illegal?

And then, the way I understand it, #Threema never gets your phone number. If you use TOR or VPN, I don't see much...

HistoPol (#HP)

@raphaelmorgan

(4/5)

...potential for security breeches. Of course, if you have the tools of the intelligence services at hand, there is no really secure form for non-infosec people.
But this cannot be the yardstick.

Yes, the weak link might be the payment, but other than what I wrote, did I miss anything essential?

If not, this might be a solution for many people.

Most anything is better than WhatsApp in this regard. Meta cooperates best with US law enforcement and has the worst...

@raphaelmorgan

(4/5)

...potential for security breeches. Of course, if you have the tools of the intelligence services at hand, there is no really secure form for non-infosec people.
But this cannot be the yardstick.

Yes, the weak link might be the payment, but other than what I wrote, did I miss anything essential?

HistoPol (#HP)

@raphaelmorgan

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...type of leaks (#CambridgeAnalyticaSummit, ) probably apart from post-Dorsey #Twitter (#X,) soon to become the "everything app," like the state-surveillance tool #WeChat, if #Elmo continues to have his way and people are stupid enough to follow him down that rabbit hole (#TESCREAL.)
But this goes way beyond this convo.

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