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Dare Obasanjo

Streaming is now just as expensive and confusing as cable. Ubers cost as much as taxis. And the cloud is no longer cheap.

In other words, enshitification comes for us all. 😏

businessinsider.com/tech-broke

28 comments
Ian Tindale

@carnage4life@mas.to the internet is past it’s ‘free sample’ stage now

Niall Winters 🌍

@carnage4life When I’m at Dublin Airport, I just get a taxi at the rank. It’s now cheaper and easier than any ride-hailing app but about the same price as it always was. Experience of taxis in Paris is similar (just hail one down on the street)! London seems to be one place where Uber/Bolt etc. are still cheaper but that’s because traditional Black Cabs were always on the high side.

Paul_IPv6

@carnage4life

yeah. as a species, we seem to keep falling for "really cheap taste until they drive the competition under/out of biz, then jack the prices to where they were".

perhaps we should be more suspicious of the same market expansion method drug dealers use? :)

Rich Felker

@carnage4life I don't think we're quite there on streaming. Netflix is only $12 or something (I forget) vs $70+ for cable with anything of value rather than Fox News type drivel. If you want variety, the combined bill may rival cable, but the big problem with cable was always paying for the awful shit you didn't want just to get a few good channels.

Gaëtan Perrault

@dalias @carnage4life

If your needs are really simple, then sure.

But by the time you get a family involved, the price starts climbing. One kids loves Bluey (Disney) and Paw Patrol (Netflix). Another loves Transformers (Paramount+) and YouTube videos. Partner and I are watching Good Omens (Amazon) and awaiting Dr Who (was Pluto/BBC, now Disney+). I'm an NBA fan (ESPN+TNT+League Pass).

Very quickly, you're running 5 to 7 services at $15/month.

Googly Eyed Peas

@gatesvp @dalias @carnage4life at least don’t have to deal with cable company, their crappy equipment and inexplicable loss of service every few months.

Gaëtan Perrault

@andymoose @dalias @carnage4life I live in Canada, the cable TV providers are the internet companies. In many cases they're also the telephone companies and the mobile companies.

oftencalledcathy

@carnage4life I was wondering when the whole cloud idea would start to go wrong

Demiurg

@oftencalledcathy @carnage4life I am not convinced by the article. I am a fan of self hosting but to compare Salesforce with AWS seems odd. SaaS and Hosting are two different pairs of shoes, imho. 100% of our customers who had severe IT incidents run their own machines. Also there are a lot of different ways how you can use these clouds. You can safe a lot when you do it right.
Also it compares a bundle of 'all streaming providers' with average cable costs. Uber I can't tell...never used it.

Niall

@carnage4life there are always new shareholders demanding a return.

garettmd

@carnage4life even if they're just as expensive as the previous alternatives, I think they're (typically, and in the most meaningful ways) still better options than their predecessors.

I'd rather hail an uber than a taxi (how the hell would I even hail a taxi in the burbs?).

having thousands (millions?) of titles available to stream on demand is better than 900 channels which most of the time had nothing that I was interested in watching at the moment

i still like the cloud better than an in-house (or even colo) datacenter

@carnage4life even if they're just as expensive as the previous alternatives, I think they're (typically, and in the most meaningful ways) still better options than their predecessors.

I'd rather hail an uber than a taxi (how the hell would I even hail a taxi in the burbs?).

having thousands (millions?) of titles available to stream on demand is better than 900 channels which most of the time had nothing that I was interested in watching at the moment

Max M1smett1

@carnage4life I remember the first time my dad described what cable TV was supposed to be in the 80’s: “you pay for it so there’s no ads”

Francis Cook

@carnage4life when was cloud cheap? Someone telling me they have cheap cloud is just telling me they have no idea how the billing works.

martin_fff

@carnage4life but they've all but destroyed the taxi/cable/"physical software" industries since. AS THEY PLANNED to from the start.

Daniel Schwarz :toad:

@carnage4life Not quite there yet. People don’t factor in the extra taxes, fees, including CABLE BOX RENTAL fees that really increase the price of cable. I pay $35 for FIOS, $73 for YouTube TV, Disney+ for $12/month, this is way less than I was paying; around $160/mo for cable TV plus slower internet.

Chris Boese

@carnage4life Ask not for whom enshittification piles; it piles for thee. @pluralistic

Vanalope

@carnage4life Streaming certainly is now cancelling shows prematurely the way network did. 😕

Cheradenine Zakalwe

@carnage4life@mas.to That was Uber/Lyft's game plan from the start. Bleed VC money until you drive taxis out of business, walk away with the IPO money laughing all the way to the bank, then screw both the customers and the drivers.

Really, this wasn't rocket science. The game plan was obvious from the very start to everyone except the people who
didn't want to see it. The "gig economy" is just another incremental refinement of exploitation.

Mark Maguire

@carnage4life Spot on. My wages have stagnated for 15 years but almost everything else has increased in price, or decreased in value, or become a never-ending nuisance in terms of its cost-management.

Darryl Ramm

@carnage4life I know about that stuff. I been exploited all my life. -- Elwood Blues

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@carnage4life I personally would never ever subscribe to cable: I hate advertisements, I love one-tap cancel, and I love being able to watch with Audio Description track or random Japanese/French dub to practice languages and watch at 1.5x speed.

Even if I’m able to get these latter technical features via apps while on cable, the pay-to-have-no-ads is worth it for me.

Stephen Shankland

@carnage4life It's fair to gripe about this, but I feel a bit more empowered since I can sub/unsub in a more a la carte way, plus I feel like there are shows with better stories/production values/acting that I actually want to watch.

Plus it's on-demand, which cable never was. You can explore more and skip it if you don't like it (music streaming too).

I do worry about quality dropping with the cost-cutting efforts that often accompany businesses looking for profit growth in mature markets.

SaanichGuy 🇨🇦🇨🇦

@carnage4life ride hailing was only cheaper because no wage protection for drivers & no control over quality of service or vehicle. As standards are put in place the costs start matching up.
Never a fan of ride hailing. It was a phase

Tito Swineflu

@carnage4life The cloud was always at least 3x physical hardware.

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