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Sam Butler

@ipstenu @jsbarretto Want to initiative a cooperative? There is a ton of money going to digital agencies, even around progressive causes. I'm interested in a cooperative to provide services like those, build them *well* (e.g. without bloat, supple) and for the long-term success of orgs we're supporting. This could be a viable way to get the money we need for living (and supporting great orgs in the process), while having balance and autonomy with our work.

17 Aug 2023 at 7:34 | Wall-to-wall | Open on kolektiva.social
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Sam Butler
Grey Goo

@sambutlerUS I'm happily working my whole life for open source companies, and will still for some time I guess. But I love the idea and depending on what your goals are I would be very much intrigued. Am located in Germany though, so might make more sense to start something similar with people here.

17 Aug 2023 at 10:23 | Open on mastodon.social
Sam Butler

@gr3yg00 that sounds awesome, and completely understand! want to connect and introduce in any case?

I just spun up a jitsi, I'll be here for the next 30ish mins if you want to pop in? (other folks interested, feel free to come say hi too?)

meet.jit.si/mastodon_coop_chat

17 Aug 2023 at 10:25 | Open on kolektiva.social
Grey Goo

@sambutlerUS I'm currently in a workshop, sorry only text possible atm...

17 Aug 2023 at 10:25 | Open on mastodon.social
Sam Butler

@gr3yg00 all good — maybe another time? I'm currently in CEST time zone and pretty flexible

17 Aug 2023 at 10:27 | Open on kolektiva.social
Grey Goo

@sambutlerUS Sure, I'm also CEST, in the evening is more relaxed for me. But I honestly have no idea about the legal stuff around such projects, I know it's possible, but really never done anything in that area. But I really feel like there are a lot of bright people, that are ready to do things differently :)

17 Aug 2023 at 10:30 | Open on mastodon.social
Sam Butler

@gr3yg00 For sure! I have decent experience there. It can be as simple as a private company, which is internally structured so that all workers for the company have a vote in the operations (one member, one vote) and a share in the dividends. Then different countries also have legal entities types for coops, specifically, which is a bit newer territory. For example, Europe has a kind of entity which is a cross-border legal cooperative (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas) — it makes certain operations implicit, which I think a group of people could also just encode into the charter and codes of a private company. (e.g. not sure about the benefits of coop legal entities, compared to private companies structured as cooperative entities.). It seems a number of active cooperatives are actually limited private companies structured as cooperatives, because that gives them greater flexibility in being cooperatives ... ironically. An example of that here:

feeltrain.com/blog/operating-a

@gr3yg00 For sure! I have decent experience there. It can be as simple as a private company, which is internally structured so that all workers for the company have a vote in the operations (one member, one vote) and a share in the dividends. Then different countries also have legal entities types for coops, specifically, which is a bit newer territory. For example, Europe has a kind of entity which is a cross-border legal cooperative (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas)...

17 Aug 2023 at 10:41 | Open on kolektiva.social
Grey Goo

@sambutlerUS Thanks a lot for that primer. Will read up on this a bit later, but it might be something @haschrebellen@kolektiva.social is also interested in.

17 Aug 2023 at 10:43 | Open on mastodon.social
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