@gamingonlinux 100% agree.
Videogames are for everyone, regardless of how we play them.

@gamingonlinux I never understood that type of critic. They can't just enjoy their own idea of fun by challenging themselves? (Which I do) They have to make other people enjoy it too? (Which I don't do)

It's an argument as old as time.

@gamingonlinux I love being able to end entire towns without consequences.

It let's me actually play the game without the game getting mad at me

@gamingonlinux there are games that have taken away my save slots. I have ways of dealing with those games.

@gamingonlinux "Just buy a video game that says nothing about DnD but requires you to have extremely in-depth knowledge of all the rules while also explaining absolutely nothing to you and you can never die, or you have to restart" is not an actual thing. Those people can die in a fire.

@gamingonlinux As adventure game's have thought me: save early, save often

@gamingonlinux I save every time I'm allowed to in any game that I play, and I make sure to back up my save files when I'm done playing. You'd best believe I support save scumming.

@gamingonlinux Agreed. I mean, if the dev wants you to play with limited saves, then fine. You get to choose whether that's your jam.

But if the devs put in arbitrary save slots, who cares? It's like crapping on people for playing on easy difficulty or, god forbid, Story Mode.

Not your playthrough, not your problem.

@gamingonlinux When I do it, it's "save scumming." When my employer does it, it's "restoring from backups".

@gamingonlinux I agree with this but i also think a lot of games are just kinda badly designed so that most people end up savescumming and having less fun than they could be having.

This video goes over it well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go0BQugwGgM

@gamingonlinux Don't worry Liam, I have played and finished honour mode on DOS2 as my last playthrough to 100% completion

I can guarantee to you it isn't remotely fun and is just PITA. Glad they remove it on BG3

Nobody is tapping me in the back and saying "Goodjob Richard you beat the game on honour mode using the most OP abilities around to guarantee your odds just because you only get one save (therefore can't savescum) and death = restart"

@gamingonlinux
Save Scumming is also sometimes a fix for bad game design.
Or it is the easiest way to explore multiple endings.

@gamingonlinux coffee stain handled this perfectly in a recent satisfactory update. They offered a bunch of 'cheat' options and said this isn't the intended way to play and given the opportunity, players may optimise away their own fun but they were requested features and people should be able to play in whatever way they want - optimal or not.

@gamingonlinux

Exactly. Why set arbitrary rules upon yourself? Play the game the way you want.

@gamingonlinux imo there's no such thing as cheating on single player games, cheating implies getting an unfair advantage over other players, if there's no other players that's not possible

@gamingonlinux Absolutely agree. Continuing your save after a fuckup is only acceptable in two situation, I think: As a personal or tournament challenge, or as an ingrained game mechanic, like roguelikes.

@gamingonlinux I'm in agreement that you should play a game how ever you like, as someone that uses save states to complete a lot of emulated games where the extreme difficulty was left over from arcades and the like.

That said, sometimes to keep some level of tension I make special rules for myself for when I'm allowed to save. Like "Only at health stations" or "Only at beds" depending on the game.

@gamingonlinux Some people think they need to tell other people how to enjoy things properly or their form of enjoying things is somehow invalid.

@gamingonlinux There's absolutely nothing wrong with save scumming. Nobody should criticize trivial things like that.

I've been save scumming my whole life, but lately I've been enjoying holding myself accountable for my decisions and performance. Everything that happens in the game feels like it carries more significance, and I'm having fun experiencing the pathos of narratives gone awry.

It depends on the game tho. I still scum on games I care less about.