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Carolyn

@jakintosh So bikes are out unless they are bicycles built for two! But, then, there isn't a more ableist transportation mode.

Making cities and towns friendlier is a good goal, but you don't get to play god and tell others what they are entitled to. Vehicles can only go as fast as someone walks? There is a huge difference in walking speeds & biking speeds.

The thought of only being able to take transportation to limited places wth tons of other people is a big no for me.

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jakintosh

@CStamp it’s not “playing god”, it’s living within limits. if purchase price wasn’t an issue, should we all have access to private helicopters? no, because airspace would be crowded and resource utilization would skyrocket… and yet, oops, cars. moving tons of steel and glass (and lithium) just to move a 150lb human being is ludicrously wasteful, and the icky “thought” of having to be close to other people when swiftly and efficiently crossing huge distances is not going to get sympathy from me.

Carolyn

@jakintosh When I first moved to Toronto, my first job took 1 1/2 hr in the morning to get to and 2 1/2 hr to get home. This was using subways and buses. Bikes will NOT fix this.

The whole car evil, bike good thing is nothing but superficial gloss to why people prefer cars. No one should have to spend 4-5 hours commuting a day and many do. It needs to be affordable for businesses to stay within cities and affordable housing around places people work is needed. Want people to...

Carolyn

@jakintosh ...depend on cars less, people need a reason. And the choice between a 4 hr commute vs 40-60 min? Most folk will choose the one that actually allows them to have a life if they have the option.

As for roads and cars bad, good road are extremely important, as is the ability to travel. Not all places (in Canada) will ever be easy to access.

So there are very different conversations about making cities less car dependant and saying no one has a right to drive a car.

Carolyn

@jakintosh And it is playing god if you spend no time thinking of the ramifications of what you are saying and say things like no one has a right to drive faster than someone can walk. Time is the most valuable thing we possess. Spending hours instead of minutes to get somewhere is huge.

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