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D'Arcy Norman

@dj3ei @uastronomer @george @blacklight I was meaning more about the discipline and rigorous methodology, rather than pasting from StackOverflow until error messages are resolved.

30 Jul 2023 at 21:21 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.ds106.us
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Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

I'm completely with you that methodical thinking and a certain amount of knowing what it is one is doing are essential.

I was mostly reacting to @uastronomer's "Story of Mel".

That Mel hero from back then, when IT knew little about how to do software projects, would need to learn a thing or two today.

Worse: By today's standard, the project management is unacceptable: Non-agile, truck number 1, team resorts to passive-aggressive behavior for ethical reasons.

@dnorman @george @blacklight

30 Jul 2023 at 21:37 | Open on mastodon.radio
Allen Versfeld

@dj3ei @dnorman @george @blacklight I love the story of Mel because it's almost mythological. He reminds me of Achilles, the almost-invincible demigod.

But Achilles was a serious handicap to his army because he was also a self-absorbed petulant arrogant crybaby who held an entire war hostage, allowing a siege to drag on for decades at enormous human cost because he had a personal disagreement with his boss. Once he finally got over himself, he ended the Trojan war in a matter of days.

It's a great story that lets us fantasize about being so clever and smart and amazing. But you wouldn't actually want to work with him.

@dj3ei @dnorman @george @blacklight I love the story of Mel because it's almost mythological. He reminds me of Achilles, the almost-invincible demigod.

But Achilles was a serious handicap to his army because he was also a self-absorbed petulant arrogant crybaby who held an entire war hostage, allowing a siege to drag on for decades at enormous human cost because he had a personal disagreement with his boss. Once he finally got over himself, he ended the Trojan war in a matter of days.

31 Jul 2023 at 6:48 | Open on mastodon.monoceros.co.za
Andreas, DJ3EI, he/him

I'm obviously with you on your main conclusion.

🤔

But to pick a minor nit:

Who was finally securing Greek victory in the Trojan war (according to the classical account)?

On that one, I'm betting the horse on team Odysseus, rather than team Achilles.

@uastronomer @dnorman @george @blacklight

31 Jul 2023 at 9:04 | Open on mastodon.radio
Allen Versfeld

@dj3ei @dnorman @george @blacklight i concede without argument as i last read the Iliad 30 years ago ☺️

31 Jul 2023 at 9:16 | Open on mastodon.monoceros.co.za
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