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Scott Matter

@kissane

Super interesting. All the “unwritten rules” stuff makes me wonder how those folks deal with cultural diversity IRL, or if they’ve just never encountered it?

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@scottmatter @kissane the people I saw being dogpiled the most for violating the unwritten rules were the Black and Indigenous posters. Maybe ask them how they deal with “cultural diversity” in real life.

Scott Matter

@Marcducharme @kissane

Yep, that’s immensely shitty, and have seen people talking about how that’s happened to them.

It would be useful to have demographic data like that in connection with the sort of informal research posted above.

I’ve also seen a number of privileged white dudes experience similar and leave (in a dramatic huff, usually), but I have far less sympathy for them.

Scott Matter

@kissane

Also the CW thing is an interesting one. Isn’t part of the value prop of bluesky (haven’t activated my invitation yet) that it’s the freeest of speech, uncensorable? If so, that sets up a pretty obvious values and behaviour conflict with the culture of CW on (parts of?) the fediverse.

And maybe that’s a good thing? As in, if the underlying issue is less “people were actively hostile to me for no good reason” and more “I don’t believe I should ever have to moderate or modify what I say,” maybe those groups of people shouldn’t use the same space?

@kissane

Also the CW thing is an interesting one. Isn’t part of the value prop of bluesky (haven’t activated my invitation yet) that it’s the freeest of speech, uncensorable? If so, that sets up a pretty obvious values and behaviour conflict with the culture of CW on (parts of?) the fediverse.

And maybe that’s a good thing? As in, if the underlying issue is less “people were actively hostile to me for no good reason” and more “I don’t believe I should ever have to moderate or modify what I say,”...

Erin Kissane

@scottmatter Bluesky currently has just one (centrally moderated) server, but after they roll out federation, it will be exactly as moderatable as the fediverse, which is to say…locally + by defederation.

Scott Matter

@kissane

Does bluesky have a CW feature?

Also, will be interesting to see if / how people in the bluesky ecosystem do / don’t self-censor or engage in the kind of cultural politics around they described to you from their disappointing experiences with mastodon

Scott Matter

@kissane

And, maybe ironically, it seems like CW culture and the tone / intensity of policing it are already highly variable across the fediverse. So feels a bit weird to me that folks left mastodon altogether rather than just trying another server.

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