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Evan Prodromou

@kissane

You can do about the same thing with a single-user Mastodon instance right now.

It would be cool if you could do it with other server software: make a backup from your 1-user Masto, and restore it to your 1-user Calckey. Change the DNS, and it just works.

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Evan Prodromou

@kissane this is, obviously, how Blue Sky data portability works. Everyone gets a DNS name for their identity. And they move around as needed.

Evan Prodromou

@kissane all of which is to say:

1) We should be encouraging people to get their own domain early in the onboarding process.

2) Fediverse software should support bringing your own domain. Takahē does it; others should follow suit.

3) Fediverse software should support both Webfinger accounts (user@domain.example) and DNS hostname accounts (user.domain.example). That way, everyone gets a domain name, free, right away, but somewhat less under their own control.

Evan Prodromou

@kissane I know that domains have their weaknesses as a root of identity on the Web and the social web.

They've also proved remarkably resilient over the last 30+ years of civilian Internet.

There are some other identity systems, like DIDs, that can supplement DNS, but right now, owning a domain is the best way to control your internet identity.

Kevin Marks

@evan @kissane Webfinger is the messy bit that mastodon added to AP that makes a lot of this worse and harder to interop.

Erin Dalzell (He/Him)

@evan I’d love it if cosocial allows me to use my own domain. I guess we wouldn’t be a community then though?

Evan Prodromou

@emd we can be a community with different domains in our user names!

Erin Dalzell (He/Him)

@evan let’s do it then! I’d even pay more for that option

Guillaume Ross

@emd @evan I highly recommend @mastohost I’d you want a painless way of self hosting and using your own domain. My server is almost single user (I mean I have like 4 friends on it) because there was no way I’d have my main account on a domain I don’t control, just like email.

Erin Dalzell (He/Him)

@g @evan @mastohost ya I thought about that but wanted to join a community, and one that is member supported (my instance is a co-op model).

But I’d love to own my own identity on here.

Guillaume Ross

@emd @evan Normally, I’d be on @jerry’s awesome instance, but I wanted to control my domain. I interact with people from that instance non stop, I don’t feel like I’m less part of the community. I guess some features are a bit pointless though like if I look at all my local server posts etc and it’s tumbleweeds

Cassidy James :eos: :gg: :fh:

@g @emd @evan @mastohost the problem is, afaik you can't import your data (posts, etc.) that way, though. At least I didn't see it as an option.

amd

@evan @kissane I’ve long been under the impression that if you use a domain once it basically gets burned because of the public key caching that happens across the fediverse and that you can’t then spin up another instance on the same domain.

I do have the advantage of having been able to move my self-hosted instance between hosts without data loss and minimal downtime though.

amd

@evan @kissane I could be 100% wrong.

I guess it’s something I need to test with a spare domain…

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