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gofoss

So, Google works on a new evil API.

Called "Web Environment Integrity", whatever. Supposedly to improve security on the net.

Who are we kidding? This will:

1. Compromise privacy: goodbye ad blockers, welcome trackers

2. Restrict access to digital content: goodbye Youtube/Netflix/Spotify without Chrome

3. Empower Google to decide who's trustworthy: goodbye net neutrality

4. Break extensions: goodbye browser competition

Leave Chrome. Install Firefox.

#openweb #google #drm #firefox

24 comments
TudbuT :v_bi:

@don_atoms all of these are totally true and i agree with your point, but i dont see how it compromises privacy. The User-Agent field already sends all things Google wants to send with WEI, at least from what ive read in their explainer.

🐧DaveNull🐧 ☣️pResident Evil☣

@TudbuT It doesn't "compromises" privacy… It destroys whatever is left of it… because the purpose of this "API" is to prevent chrome users from blocking ads and trackers, therefore it prevents them for "protecting their privacy", which be the way can't ve achieved while using spywares like google chrome… blocking tracker using chrome is a joke… google collects everything Thais to chrome

The user-agent alone is not enough for tracking, and can be easily forged (at least on firefox…)

@don_atoms

TudbuT :v_bi:

@devnull yeah its obviously partially so that adblock is harder, but i don't see how this helps them do anything else.

in terms of user-agent, yeah it can be forged, but im certain attestation apps will be hijacked very soon after this is implemented anywhere.

🐧DaveNull🐧 ☣️pResident Evil☣

@TudbuT It helps web services/sites admins to collect more data, by preventing users from blocking trackers. Not to mention even if there weren't trackers (spoiler, there's no online ads without trackers or any kind of so-called "privacy-respecting ads", no matter what marketing people claim), the act of displaying ads alone leaks IP to ads networks that deliver said ads, since ads are shown by adding to web sites code that actually make HTTP requests to 3rd party, ads-specialised servers.

🐧DaveNull🐧 ☣️pResident Evil☣

@TudbuT

By controlling both
- the pseudo-web-browser a.k.a advestising platform what chrome/ium actually is
- an API that web sites can call to bypass anti-tracking and anti-ads addons
- JS pseudo "standard"

Therefore all the chain of web tools, google needs to be incredibly stupid and incompetent if they "only" manage to make things harder for ad/tracker blockers, instead of effectively preventing them from working at all en chrome/chromium.

They litterally have control over the whole shit…

@TudbuT

By controlling both
- the pseudo-web-browser a.k.a advestising platform what chrome/ium actually is
- an API that web sites can call to bypass anti-tracking and anti-ads addons
- JS pseudo "standard"

Therefore all the chain of web tools, google needs to be incredibly stupid and incompetent if they "only" manage to make things harder for ad/tracker blockers, instead of effectively preventing them from working at all en chrome/chromium.

Walter Tross

@don_atoms
Where do I best read about this (with technical details)?
Edit:
github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-
seems to be a good URL for the Google view of things (optimistic, to say the least), now what's a good URL for summing up the problems?
@mforester

Allan Haverholm

@don_atoms 5. Leave Google to their own crippled version of the internet. 🥳

gofoss

@haverholm Yeah. If Google, Meta & Amazon weren't, like, 99.98% of the Internet.

Would be lovely to just let them crap in a corner. Sadly, that corner has long been the whole room.

Allan Haverholm

@don_atoms Well, that's a bleakly Google-/Meta-/Amazon-centric way to view the internet. I have used neither of them to any great extent for the past decade and I can't say that I miss them 🤷 In the end they're just a dozen domains that nobody really forces you to use.

shine

@haverholm @don_atoms until Cloudflare joins, which, with their track record...

Dushman

@don_atoms@hostux.social
If you use Chrome you get what you signed up for (i.e being shat on by Google). This whole debacle a bit overblown imo. ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

serklarvel

@don_atoms it's urgent the US government breaks down Google. Too much power, they are becoming criminals.

cincinmasukmangkok

@don_atoms@hostux.social it isn't just a big company's fault, it's also an average joe's ignorance for giving them too much power

epicEaston197

@don_atoms
you're telling me to leave Chrome but you're telling me all this shit will break if I leave Chrome so why should I leave?

I understand and I want to leave don't get me wrong but if I leave YouTube is going to break once this is implemented and I can't have that

so I'm stuck using Chrome

Anyarchiste 😸

@epicEaston197 @don_atoms Nope, leave chrome so long Firefox and others are viable in order to squew the numbers in favour of non Google things

Nothing keeps you to come back to chrome if others break

epicEaston197

@anyarchiste @don_atoms
yeah I decided to move to librewolf
(privacy focused fork of Firefox)

K'Toche

@don_atoms and don't forget that meme (I don't know who did it)

Ayo Ayco

@don_atoms ooh. I can see this happening. They did this with email already.

gigantos

@don_atoms how can they do this in a way that works for Chromium? I guess they can't, so that this will only work for Chrome itself, and a few select trusted friends such as Edge?

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