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George Lund

@mekkaokereke there are so many people - and importantly organisations - on there, that if/when it federates, I'd view it as probably too big to defederate. Silencing so many people because of the actions of a few, or because of inadequate regulation of their megacorp owner, seems like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

13 Jul 2023 at 16:45 | Wall-to-wall | Open on urbanists.social
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mofu mofu fumo
@georgelund @mekkaokereke i dont think most who are thinking of pre emptively defederating want to interact with all of the users on that service to begin with and are trying to get everyone else to block them for them so they don't see thier posts but also (more relevantly) so thier posts arent seen by facebook either. the former is solved by blocking locally and the latter is a non issue as we are on THE most public place on the entire internet. i think this is yet another thinly veiled attempt by freaks and weirdos to hide thier bad takes from people who would learn what they are doing right now. sunlight is the best disinfectant. open federation or none at all imo.
@georgelund @mekkaokereke i dont think most who are thinking of pre emptively defederating want to interact with all of the users on that service to begin with and are trying to get everyone else to block them for them so they don't see thier posts but also (more relevantly) so thier posts arent seen by facebook either. the former is solved by blocking locally and the latter is a non issue as we are on THE most public place on the entire internet. i think this is yet another thinly veiled attempt...
13 Jul 2023 at 17:27 | Open on federated.fun
Susanna
@jeff @mekkaokereke @georgelund Open federation should be the goal and the whole point of why ActivityPub exists. Preemptively blocking new instances packs people to the few giant instances and destroys the horizontal growth and spreading of resources federation is all about. Not to mention the fact only commercial and/or corporation driven instances would be able to handle that sort of traffic (donationware possibly excluded).

Users should be able to moderate, customize and personalize their timelines as they prefer. If your current instance doesn't allow users to block or mute instances, demand a change in that policy or move to an instance that allows you to do that. Or even host your own! Whole instances should be instance-blocked only in the case of spam, spreading malware or otherwise clearly "evil" actions. Not because personal issues (Hint, use the moderation tools available to block whatever your heart desires).

If Threads will actually get instance-blocked everywhere, they will most likely out-scale the rest of the fediverse and users will start to flock to Threads from other instances. The healthier approach is to show those starting with Threads that they can also join other, probably less predatory privacy-wise, instances and still keep conversing with their friends on Threads. Especially if Meta's talking points about easy migration away from Threads will be a thing and not just a bait.
@jeff @mekkaokereke @georgelund Open federation should be the goal and the whole point of why ActivityPub exists. Preemptively blocking new instances packs people to the few giant instances and destroys the horizontal growth and spreading of resources federation is all about. Not to mention the fact only commercial and/or corporation driven instances would be able to handle that sort of traffic (donationware possibly excluded).
13 Jul 2023 at 18:01 | Open on blob.cat
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