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Gabriele Svelto

@rmflight @mhoye symbol prediction is part of many of the best lossless compression algorithms, isn't it?

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mhoye

@gabrielesvelto @rmflight It is, and if this paper's results hold up it we're talking about how large scale deep-learning networks are fundamentally a technical dead end, and something that takes a datacenter to do with a DNN can be done better with a clever application of gzip on a phone.

Nick Wood

@mhoye @gabrielesvelto @rmflight So what you’re saying is that I’m about to get a screaming deal on a graphics card?

Choong Ng

@mhoye @gabrielesvelto @rmflight On first look I think what this paper suggests is 1) for some classification tasks there's nicely simple approach that works well and 2) this is a promising path towards better feature engineering for language models that will in turn result in better accuracy vs cost.

Choong Ng

@mhoye @gabrielesvelto @rmflight If this works out well we'll see better + smaller models for all tasks (not just classification) that outperform both current DNNs and the NCD technique they use at moderate cost. There's precedent of this being a successful approach for example using frequency domain data for audio models instead of raw PCM. There's also precedent for finding ways DNNs waste a lot of capacity on effectively routing data around and restructuring to fix (ResNets for example).

Choong Ng

@mhoye @gabrielesvelto @rmflight Overall though in recent history data-based approaches have tended to win so I would expect the useful bits to get incorporated into DNNs rather than DNNs being obsoleted in almost any context. My favorite essay on that topic by Rich Sutton: incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/B

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