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bignose

Certainly @b0rk the desktop experience of Gnome and KDE can both be quite annoying at times.

But having used MacOS and Windows 11 in recent day jobs, those are *far* more annoying, *all the time*, and the free-software desktops are a relief by comparison.

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bignose

@b0rk In conclusion: computers are way too complex and getting one system useable by a variety of people is a big problem

and at least the free-software ones do not have "extract value from our users" as an ever-present design goal.

So the free-software ones tend, more than the proprietary monopoly ones, to be designed by people who at least want to meet people's real needs without screwing them over for private gain.

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