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Dan Gillmor

It gets more absurd every day for Big Journalism to keep pouring its work into Saudi-government-funded Twitter, which is controlled by a right-winger who hates real journalism and boosts extremists.

It gets even more absurd for journalism orgs to keep embedding tweets in their stories, given Musk's unfathomable destruction of the platform's usefulness.

I keep wondering when journalists will discover that big tech is not their daddy.

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supernal resonance

@dangillmor

Upton Sinclair — 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'

Silversalty

@dangillmor
It's at this point that Twitter has become as mediocre as the alternatives. Lists to me was the great advantage. Ads and MAGAs not so much a problem. No ads and control of MAGA input (someone else's list giving some view of the crazy level). With Musk's view limit and supposed charges coming I've stopped using lists. I've looked at some alts but seen nothing special. Not nearly enough input. So it's leave, but where to?

Six Grandfathers Mountain

@Silversalty @dangillmor

Where to go after leaving #twitter?

Some posters here on Masto feel the (rightwing) twitter users are going to #threads but let's see

But maybe some will woke the fuk up and join Masto

@antonioserrata
(Tony said)
#meta is responsible for issues, divisions and rampant disinfo
#threads is just a profit grab and people are stupidly falling for it.....AGAIN
We really are an 🤑idiocracy

Threads, no editing, no hastages, no seeing your followers, no good

@Silversalty @dangillmor

Where to go after leaving #twitter?

Some posters here on Masto feel the (rightwing) twitter users are going to #threads but let's see

But maybe some will woke the fuk up and join Masto

@antonioserrata
(Tony said)
#meta is responsible for issues, divisions and rampant disinfo
#threads is just a profit grab and people are stupidly falling for it.....AGAIN
We really are an 🤑idiocracy

Silversalty

@6G @dangillmor
Haven't yet checked out what 'threads' are.

From what I understand I can build something similar to lists putting followed members into separate columns and categories. But they have to be followed. May not be a significant distinction. ??

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@dangillmor
@JamesGleick

tech has been journalisms daddy since Guttenberg

John Socks

@dangillmor Well, the argument that they should "join the federation" is stronger today than it was yesterday.

Six Grandfathers Mountain

@John @dangillmor

When #twitter users hear, why not join the Federation?

They probably think, "why should I join the evil Empire⁉️

Peter Principle

@dangillmor The vast majority won't quit it until and unless they decide it's no longer useful for promoting their work and their individual or corporate brands.

Fortunately, thanks to Musk's staggering incompetence (not his evilness) that day may come soon.

Chris Hanson

@jobsboils @dangillmor I also think that there could be more evangelism to news organizations of the advantages of setting up their own instances.

Chris Hanson

@jobsboils @dangillmor My (Pulitzer-nominated) buddy Joshua Ellis is fairly far along putting together a system he named Kowloon which is essentially “an Open Source, Mastodon-compatible social networking system in a box.”

An individual can set it up for a blog similar to WordPress, except it has a bunch of features for what Josh calls “circles” in terms of who sees what posts.

And its Node.js components are useful for things like the CMS-to-social workflows that news orgs need.

⁂ Justin (StayGrounded.online)

@dangillmor As a non-Twitter user, my perception of seeing embedded tweets in articles over the years slowly transitioned from a lightly confounding experience, into a signal that maybe I shouldn't be taking whatever I was reading at face value.

Steve Downey

@dangillmor
Quoting primary sources from the web is a problem. At least now we can point at why you need both the extract and the link.

Steve Downey

@dangillmor Good faith journalists were linking, bad faith ones took out of context quotes, or copied invented screen shots.

Janet Vertesi

@dangillmor well, except it is their daddy, because since print subscriptions fell they are stuck in and endless hype loop for clicks and advertisers that rely on social media working to turn a profit…

Matthew Merkovich :clippy:

@dangillmor "And who owns the big journalism outlets, again?" he asked rhetorically.

JohnW

@dangillmor

One of the coolest things about the Fediverse is that both big tech and big journalism can only remain on equal footing as local journalism and tech initiatives. Just because they're "name brand this and that" doesn't propel them to the top.

Theriac

@the_Effekt@universeodon.com @dangillmor@mastodon.social


when Prigozhin decieded to head to Moscow I found a lot of posters on the
#fediverse making cogent and insightful commentary on his motives at a time where nobody knew anything. When commentary started showing up 3-4 days later from media outlets, there was very little to no extra information added. I'm not suggesting they were copying, just that on getting info about fast changing events you cannot beat something like the #fediverse for speed of reaction.

Where the media does have an edge is when it does fact checking and impartial contextualising of events in a historical context.

@the_Effekt@universeodon.com @dangillmor@mastodon.social


when Prigozhin decieded to head to Moscow I found a lot of posters on the
#fediverse making cogent and insightful commentary on his motives at a time where nobody knew anything. When commentary started showing up 3-4 days later from media outlets, there was very little to no extra information added. I'm not suggesting they were copying, just that on getting info about fast changing events you cannot beat something like the #fediverse for speed of reaction.

Cat West

@dangillmor You’ve heard the expression: “beating a dead horse”? this is big journalism riding a dead horse.

Theriac

@dangillmor@mastodon.social
tbh I ended up skipping outlets that ran stories that had the quote from a tweet verbatim then a link to the tweet quote with a preview which the quoted text had CnP'd from. Or worse made stories around twitter trends.

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@dangillmor
Makes you wonder who is there to support Musk.

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