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AnthonyJK-Admin

Threads just allowed Libs of Tik Tok to join them.

Libs. of. Tik. Tok.

Yeah, right. So much for joining them.

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eri :vlpn_smol:
@AnthonyJK i thought the goal was to make a troll account and spam the most repulsive things imaginable to make it get defederated even faster
Rebecca

@AnthonyJK I mean... did we think something else would happen?

AnthonyJK-Admin

@rebecca_meadows

Nope.

Knowing Meta/Facebook as I do, there was not a snowball's chance in Hell they were going to deny wingnutters and fundies "free speech" rights there.

Rebecca

@AnthonyJK Absolutely. Their entire business model relies on them!

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@AnthonyJK they can’t “ban” accounts from signing up for threads, it might share instagram’s account system, but if the account is reported enough i’m sure it’ll be removed

AnthonyJK-Admin

@evelyn

The problem is, though, Threads uses Instagram's rules of conduct pertaining to "free speech", and those tend to excuse "conservative" sites with lots of cash like LoTT to remain above censorship standards. No way does Zuck want to be tagged as "liberal" right off the bat.

AnthonyJK-Admin

@evelyn

The other real issue is that Threads.net users have no means of blocking individual throots there, since they depend on their AI-building structure to monitor and transfer posts. So, users are stuck with them.

(Update: My mistake....users can block or mute them at the local level individually. They cannot ban them, though.)

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@AnthonyJK actually, you can block people on threads. it integrates with instagram's block system.

Joseph Guhlin

@AnthonyJK @evelyn wait, they aren't really called "throots" are they? That's like a joke you are making?

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@josephguhlin @AnthonyJK they aren’t, so yes, that’s a joke lmao

AnthonyJK-Admin

@josephguhlin @evelyn

I wish it was a joke....but apparently, that's what they are calling them. "Throots".

AnthonyJK-Admin

@evelyn @josephguhlin

Not saying that you're lying; that's what I have been hearing from a few others.

I reserve my right to be very wrong, of course.

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@AnthonyJK @josephguhlin ain’t no way they’re called that lol, adam mosseri (the head of instagram and presumably threads) calls them users, and posts on threads are simply called threads lol.

Vegetable Gremlin ⍼​👻

@AnthonyJK @evelyn if only we jad seen how facebook is moderated to get an idea of how this will go

moth bitch

@AnthonyJK breaking news: major social media site has conservatives

(im being snarky; does suck that threads is already off to a horrible start with moderation)

AnthonyJK-Admin

@kebokyo

Snark understood and acknowledged.

I actually have no issue with conservatives using social media.

Libs of Tik Tok, though, stretches "conservative" to extreme limits. Better word for them is "fascist".

moth bitch

@AnthonyJK yeah... at this point pretty much any "conservative" talking head is just a straight up fascist. the only "conservatives" are the actual voters.

Rich Felker

@kebokyo @AnthonyJK Then they should all be banned. You don't just allow abuse because it's the platform of a major political party.

AnthonyJK-Admin

@dalias @kebokyo

True. but I don't allow abuse here regardless of political party affiliation. No one escapes accountability.

Luci for dyeing

@dalias @kebokyo @AnthonyJK “I don't really care if the fediverse NIMBYs don't want channels to reach people holding power here. It's not their decision. They can block or fuck right off to some new bubble trap or their own non-federated splinter instances.”

Rich Felker

@zens @kebokyo @AnthonyJK What does your quoting me have to do with the toot you're replying to?

Luci for dyeing

@dalias @kebokyo @AnthonyJK i just thought it was funny someone would contradict themselves in such short order.

Rich Felker

@zens @kebokyo @AnthonyJK Umm, there's no contradiction. I think you're reading in some weird meaning you think is there based on presumptions..?

Luci for dyeing

@dalias @kebokyo @AnthonyJK all the abusive politicians should be banned, or we should form connections to power. which is it? because i hate to break it to you, they’re all abusive

Rich Felker

@zens @kebokyo @AnthonyJK They should all be subject to same standards as everyone else for what is hate speech and what is use of the platform to commit harm, with their continued presence contingent on not doing that.

I don't need condescending bogus gotcha comments like yours.

Rich Felker replied to Rich

@zens @kebokyo @AnthonyJK We should have a platform they want to be on, and for which they suffer consequences from being excluded from. Not a fucking irrelevant retirement community with an HOA.

Luci for dyeing

@AnthonyJK @kebokyo they crossed the threshold into “terrorist” when they started orchestrating hospital bombings

Luci for dyeing

@AnthonyJK

is this not reason enough to permaban threads from the fediverse, and then piss on the ashes of their NDA agreements?

Luci for dyeing

@AnthonyJK it’s not just generally bad, but it directly flies in the face of their own value proposition of being a “sane” version of twitter that would be brand safe

Gelt-Seeking Gastropod 🐚

@AnthonyJK

lol "We should at least give them a chaaaaaance."

[crawls under the bed for a year]

AutumnMeowMeow

@AnthonyJK Could you or someone point out the full account handle for them? I want to explicitly include them in all my account blocklists.

AnthonyJK-Admin

@AutumnMeowMeow

If you want to defederate the entirety of Threads, these are the URL's:

threads.net
threads.instagram.com

If you only want to block that particular timeline:

threads.com/libsoftiktok (???)

Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

@AnthonyJK

For the longest time, faulty moderation and/or the lack thereof has been a driving force in the defederation of servers, owing to the need for user safety. This is especially important with disadvantaged groups, BIPOC and LGBTQ+ and ND folks, exactly the sort Raichik and her ilk prefer to target.

If bad/antithetical moderation is the only reason that a lot of 'you're tearing this Fediverse apart, Lisa!' folks will accept, then so be it. It's a perfectly valid reason.

AnthonyJK-Admin

@theogrin

Oh, I perfectly understand why plenty of marginalized folk are not too pleased with the lack of robust moderation or protection here. I was one of them, before I learned about the immense power of self-hosting your own instance and setting hard rules for blocking out bigots and other bad agents.

I just don't think that those abandoning the Fediverse for that reason will find it any better elsewhere.

At least the Fedi does allow for selfhosts to set high standards.

@theogrin

Oh, I perfectly understand why plenty of marginalized folk are not too pleased with the lack of robust moderation or protection here. I was one of them, before I learned about the immense power of self-hosting your own instance and setting hard rules for blocking out bigots and other bad agents.

Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

@AnthonyJK well that just about wraps it up for Threads then. 🗑️

AnthonyJK-Admin

@bc

Oooooh, so you CAN block them at the local level. OK....good, but still not good enough for me to join or not defederate.

Little Trans Punk

@AnthonyJK@mastodon.redgarterclub.com fuck libs of TikTok, put me through 2 of the 3 waves of transphobes lasting a month each of just the most vile transphobia I've ever seen. Facebook never had anything remotely close to a reasonable moderation system

AnthonyJK-Admin

@indrora

I approve enthusiastically.

Shut their asses DOWN.

Gelt-Seeking Gastropod 🐚

@indrora @AnthonyJK

But can you mass-report Zuck himself? That would be hilarious.

zbecker

@AnthonyJK

I am extremely out of the loop...

what is libs of tik tok? I keep hearing about this.

AnthonyJK-Admin

@zbecker

LoTT is a very, very right-wing/AltRight social media org that cut their teeth gnawing on and harassing folks on the Left, LGBTQIA+ and non-White folk, with special focus on the transgender community. Their efforts got them run from Twitter during the Dorsey regime, but when MusKKKrat took over, he gave them the Mulligan and free reign to harass again.

zbecker

@AnthonyJK

Ah, that obviously isn't great.

Thanks for the context.

F00F/Eris :lowResBlobCat:☯️

@AnthonyJK that’s standard conduct for any platform that values profit and growth over social utility, tbh. and inherited directly from instagram.

threads was never going to be socialist, or even antifascist, because meta never has been, and certainly won’t change to accomodate a much smaller network they may or may not federate with in the near future

la bal. nalvolzipcpin.

@AnthonyJK These guys? Really? I never would have guessed...

I was kind of hoping that nobody would end up joining Threads, but I can imagine the sort of (bad) crowds accounts like this would bring with them

A Cure For Sleep

@AnthonyJK My standards for social media are basically rock bottom, & even I am not going anywhere near Threads.

Get fucked Zuck.

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