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Meanwhile the original mod has set up a lemmy instance and made it clear they're lifting all the rules they had to follow to play nice with reddit corporate in order to not get shut down altogether. And as a result, the main content contributors have moved over anyway. /r/piracy was the first subreddit that I saw actually directing people to the lemmy replacement in the message about the community being private, and their migration has been the most effective by far. 23 comments
There's a list of things in this comment: https://old.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14briu5/hey_rpiracy_reddit_admins_demodded_the_captain/johc228/ @mrfinnsmith I assume it's this but I only see the posts on the kbin/lemmy side edit: the original site link (I was logged into kbin, sorry) https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy @rodhilton I'd like to think that enough people like me have just deleted their reddit accounts that reddit will see some kind of negative outcome to this blatantly anti-user attitude but i'm not convinced @pvellamagi Yeah I mean just like Twitter it has so many users that if even a good chunk leave, there's still plenty more. My contention though is that, as with Twitter, this kind of thing causes your BEST users to leave. So while it doesn't become a ghost town right away, it takes a noticable hit in quality.  @rodhilton @pvellamagi I think this is the key point that is being missed by people who don't use reddit - the mods are the power users, the volunteers who make the site function. The mods and the content creators are the ones being pushed out by the recent actions. Most people just comment or lurk - 80/20 rule. Huffman is pushing out the 20% that make reddit what it is. @demvoter @pvellamagi yep precisely. Every one of those subreddits survives on the back of people that are almost weirdly obsessed with keeping it running. Some of the bigger subs, those mods are performing the equivalent of a full-time job. How they fit that in with earning a living is anyone's guess. The delicate relationship between the platform itself and the devoted community builders that are building 100% of the site's content, FOR FREE, really needed to be handled with kid gloves. @demvoter @pvellamagi I simply don't think these power mods are going to want to stay in a relationship with Reddit after this. Hell, even if spez beck-pedaled the damage is done. They're going to have no choice but to HIRE full-time mods to keep these communities open. Literal employees. Which then makes every subreddit a corporate product, and mod decisions reflect corporate attitudes. What they leave up is the responsibility of the company, not "a bunch of volunteers we don't control" @rodhilton @demvoter @pvellamagi The fascinating thing to me is that he hasn't back pedaled at all, tripled down at this point. It's kind of impressive how he doesn't get it. @maxburn @rodhilton @demvoter honestly it all made sense to me when I read a blurb of an interview on here where he talked about meeting with Elon Musk on the topic of running social media... that anyone could look at Twitter right now like it's "successful" is baffling but here we are   @rodhilton @demvoter @pvellamagi Seems like an opportunity for the Fediverse to pick up world class volunteer mod talent, which we desperately need. @JMMaok @rodhilton @demvoter @pvellamagi Mastodon is a good example of world class volunteer mods. Been on Mastodon for months now and is way above any of the others. @demvoter @rodhilton @pvellamagi I was mostly a lurker and a rare commenter, and I walked away completely. Got no time for that elitist bullshit. @rodhilton @pvellamagi People seem to think these kinds of products will disappear suddenly, but that rarely happens. MySpace has been failing for 15+ years and still exists. IBM has been on the rocks for… 30 years? Even when something big dies, it can take years and years. Sun Microsystems stuck around for like 15 years after they kind of stopped mattering. @pvellamagi @rodhilton I'm with you. I just deleted my reddit account. The reddit experience has been declining for years and the leadership is clear that reddit will only get worse. @pvellamagi @rodhilton They won't. All they care about is cashing out on their IPO. Once that happens, they don't care what happens to reddit. People are shocked when a manipulative and censorious platform behaves in manipulative and censorious ways against them  @rodhilton oh no, that sounds awful that they've created their own lemmy instance with no rules that prevent them from doing piracy! can you let me know where it is so I can block it from my network? |
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@rodhilton Do you have a link to the lemmy?