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Tane Piper ⁂

Well fuck #reddit - they have just undeleted posts I made years ago that I'd removed when I did a purge a couple of years back.

So Reddit didn't actually delete the data - also these videos are no longer on YT so the thumb is cached

They are so fucked #gdpr

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apgarcia

@tanepiper we're learning all sorts of interesting things about reddit, aren't we?

Ashe

@tanepiper You're not alone. I wiped my profile ~5 days ago and now and 30% of what I deleted is back. What's especially interesting is I had used an extension that edited posts before deleting them. They're back though, from as recent as 150 days to as far back as 10 years ago.

Ben Reaves

@ashe__ @tanepiper is it specific subreddits or random?

I have noticed at least 1 subreddit (askreddit) will detect scripts that edit or delete posts en mass & will literally ask you to not do that.

Ashe

@benreaves @tanepiper it looks like it's mostly the larger subreddits, but one specific fandom sub I had commented in was effected as well. Very strange

Ashe

@tanepiper @benreaves I was commenting on what got restored in my case. I'm getting the vibe that subreddits facing rollbacks were hand picked, rather than a threshold being used.

JKB

@tanepiper I really enjoyed these videos back then, thank you for making them

Tane Piper ⁂

@jkb I still have them backed up on a drive - I should reupload them some time

CSynthare

@tanepiper Yep. Wiped mine, went to check after seeing this and they're all back.

Patrick Stewart

@tanepiper gdpr states you can also just anonymize the data instead of deleting it. It's how every American company got around having to actually delete it. I've worked for two eLearning platforms and they both did the same thing. The EU was totally fine with it. We asked.

lavender

@tanepiper Really hope this catches on to the news cycle, privacy is certainly a big issue for EU legislation.

SkaveRat 🐀 :verified:

@tanepiper I was about to say "well, good thing other people overwrote their posts before deleting" - but you apparently did. fucking hell

Otome-chan

@tanepiper I just went back to check comments I deleted 7 fucking years ago and sure enough they're back. just wtf. I had done a purge and deleted an alt account of mine since it had personal details relating trans stuff back when I first came out. reddit just went ahead and undeleted all of that wtfff.

bmaxv

@tanepiper besides jokes of the "the internet will remember" kind, this is what I assume all big Internet companies do: All "do not track" buttons are placebo.

And even if they do delete the data they have control over, the overlords at the three letter agencies won't.

JoViKo Wi

@tanepiper@tane.codes

This is a good reminder that Zuck and Musk--and Steve Huffman--aren't just rich a-holes, but are sociopaths who have direct access to the posts of
billions of people.

And that it is sooo much easier to add things to a transactional database than to remove them. "Deletion" of a post generally means setting a flag in a record in a database, not actually erasing anything. True erasure is a slow process that usually doesn't ever happen unless by court order, and not always then. (And this doesn't even count the multiple backup copies made of the database.)

@tanepiper@tane.codes

This is a good reminder that Zuck and Musk--and Steve Huffman--aren't just rich a-holes, but are sociopaths who have direct access to the posts of
billions of people.

And that it is sooo much easier to add things to a transactional database than to remove them. "Deletion" of a post generally means setting a flag in a record in a database, not actually erasing anything. True erasure is a slow process that usually doesn't ever happen unless by court order, and not always then....

Martin Seeger

@tanepiper I wonder if they try this with me too.. I just deleted all my posts and the account.

Jim Flanagan

@tanepiper For any sufficiently complex cloud service that is built to scale, there are two possible states for a representative to be in when they tell you that data can be deleted from the service: 1) incorrect, 2) lying.

The chances that there is any one person in the organization who can exhaustively list all of the places the data goes is as close to zero as makes no odds.

Jim Flanagan

@tanepiper such services tend to be Conway’s Law-shaped. Teams are a given size, and have domain over a slice of the data (as a microservice) and its relation to the other data (as a protocol). The other parts of the lifecycle are hard enough, and there’s a good chance deletion wasn’t originally part of the design.

Retrofitting deletion in a distributed system requires some additional cross-microservice eventing and messaging, which needs to be adopted everywhere.

Buford T Justice

@tanepiper I’ve deleted one account from a few years back and debating the one I’ve used for ten years

Rhaedas

@tanepiper I appreciated your posts way back when in the glory days of Elite. o7

Xymon

@tanepiper I deleted some cat pictures last month, and they are back too. 😶

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