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Bill Hunt

Just a reminder that leaving content in closed platforms is a good way to lose it. Take some time *this week* to move your key information out of Slack, Discord, Reddit, Google Docs, etc. and into text files or html pages on the open web for folks to find.

Always Be Opening.

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John McLear

@krusynth Interesting potential product idea that takes all your social touch points and "textifies" them, removing cruft etc. It'd be challenging to keep context / metadata and I'd be worried about loss of context = misinformation.

apgarcia

@krusynth

> Always Be Opening.

i see what you did there... 🙂

chris martens

@krusynth especially if your accounts on those platforms are yours only through an employer!

chris martens

@krusynth
also, ok, so, i agree with this sentiment broadly, but alternatives are so poorly supported that i have trouble wanting to voice it because i have no good answers to “so where do I put it, then?” for folks who don’t want to run their own servers (which, frankly, includes me, even though I have the skills to be able to)

do you have resources you’d respond with?

chris martens

@krusynth
other costs to consider:
- hard drives cost money, time to move data between them, not as reliable as the redundant backups you get with a cloud service
- rented server space costs money and time to maintain

chris martens

@krusynth also i’m genuinely just not sure what you even *mean* by “the open web” here. Open in the sense of “publicly available” seems counter to what a lot of these services are *for*, which is maintaining access permissions for private data

22

@krusynth I mean, leaving content on open platforms also has this risk: my Mastodon server could be DDOSed or randomwared or just die tomorrow and if I didn’t have weekly backups…

DELETED

@22 @krusynth but you can reduce the risk by uploading your data to multiple open servers.

swansinflight

@bufalo1973 @22 @krusynth a bit spammy. How about just keep backups of your content off-line. Most posts could auto delete after a week and no one would notice.

DELETED

@swansinflight @22 @krusynth one copy in your house and 2 online in different servers.

Rich Felker

@krusynth Don't forget GitHub. And specifically, since git itself was open and inherently decentralized and something they couldn't use for lock-in, the issue & pr history of your project, which is also important.

McSinyx

@dalias and @krusynth, lemme also add YouTube to the list, especially with its hostility towards alternative clients and time shifters.

Gemini6Ice

@krusynth @PopeyeOtaku I still have emails and aim logs from 2008 😮‍💨

DELETED

@krusynth I have to "thank" Google for erasing a file in Drive without warning. A short story I wrote years ago and now is lost forever.

swansinflight

@krusynth your information should never JUST be on those platforms.

Which is what things like photobucket, imgur etc should have shown us... but especially in a chat software sheesh.

Backups are not a new concept. Well, I didn't think so. One is none.

Alexander Trivia Dragonson

@krusynth and if you don't want to put in the effort, my rates are reasonable

Rockario

@krusynth even if you don't publish it on the open web, at least have an offline copy you can keep reposting on whatever platform you want.

Jay Stephens

@krusynth
Timely reminder.
migrating away from the surveillance honeypots secures your data, and removes your support from the ad driven model doing so much harm to society.
Win/win.

tyil

@krusynth@mastodon.publicinterest.town If people didn't realize this before the hate-reddit-fad, they won't realize it now either. This information has been known, and free software proponents have been warning about the issues of closed platforms for decades. The average person doesn't care, and won't care. Let them destroy their own shit over time and migrate to a new service every couple years to repeat the cycle. They can't be saved.

DELETED

@krusynth True. But be aware that open content will nourish the closed powerful beast too.

Niku

@aks @krusynth I think with Git GitHub has somewhat like a "public Api" to access the data on it. But when this would change, i.e. GitHub Repositories become accessible via the GitHub CLI only, I would totally agree

Adrian Morales

@krusynth What about cloud space? I don't care about Gdocs, but I do care about Gdrive.

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