 So sight impaired peeps, quick serious question: Emoji or text equivalent ? Also I often drop the last letter off words (especially those ending in “ing” ) either to crawl back to 500 characters or simply for the humour of it. Does this present any serious problems? Would love some feedback on this, so please boost even if it doesn’t directly affect you . 🫶🖖 61 comments
@FrostPoem Thanks, Although the ing thing is (when used in anger , sorry humour) meant to sound a little weird, it’s the Yorkshire text accent you see 😂  @FrostPoem @MaJ1 I have a blind friend who made me feel awful because I didn't realize a grave error of emoji users, your full name read back from each reply isn't Bob :happy face :pride cat anchor: flower coffee, read before every message. Leave emojis out of your name  …and also don’t use fancy foreign characters for your user name just because they look funny and cool. They are totally useless when spelled out by a screen reader. I personally don’t boost posts that have them. @nellie_m @Rasta @FrostPoem @MaJ1 Here's an example of one such bit of madness which wasn't here on fedi, but on youtube. I made a recording of what that sounds like to my particular version of screen-reader, both at 'my speed' and normal speed. https://universeodon.com/@FreakyFwoof/110277460860510209 @FreakyFwoof @nellie_m @Rasta @FrostPoem Oh my days! @MaJ1 @FreakyFwoof @nellie_m @FrostPoem the same people who won't use AltText won't care. Life goes on in their own little world @Rasta @MaJ1 @nellie_m @FrostPoem Sure, and I expect that, but there's so many nice and kind people that *do* care, they make up for the annoying ones. @MaJ1 @FreakyFwoof @nellie_m @FrostPoem infantile sounds like a compliment, I'd Proudly wear that on a tee shirt. @FreakyFwoof @MaJ1 ◄ This child LOL, he said someone called him that yesterday. I wish that was all I was ever called LOL @FreakyFwoof @Rasta @nellie_m @FrostPoem Not today, & the person who said it knows who they are. I wasn’t overly offended. Just enough to point it out. @MaJ1 LOL, in teasing ways, you can call me things, that I would block others for. I'm amused by harmless labels. It's mean spirited ones and hateful labels, that would get me going. I might jokingly call my neighbour a SHead, and he'd call me an Ahole, and we'd laugh and laugh in good fun. The nature of the label is what counts. @FreakyFwoof @nellie_m @FrostPoem @MaJ1 I never thought to get a recording. Brilliant. A sound bite is worth a thousand words @Rasta @nellie_m @FrostPoem @MaJ1 Haha I can't help it. Audio is my life, so it's just the first thing I think of. @FreakyFwoof I'm a former DJ, when I started on Twitter, I had a thousand musicians following me LOL, I'm not Eric Alper, although he too followed me once, before he realized, I'm not the Wolfman or in Radio,. I was a performance mobile stage DJ. I went all over the province doing weddings, wakes, sweet sixteens, anniversaries, business functions, conventions, sporting events, beach parties and BBQ, infinite house and private parties. I can promote those musicians I like though @Rasta Yep, I had a fair few followers on twatter back in the day, left many of them behind because they haven't followed over here. Some have though. Just have to build it back up. @FreakyFwoof Were you ever on Google Plus? I left Facebook in 2009 when G+ came along, and I went full in, like Mastodon. I curate LONG posts boosting unknown scenic finds along Nova Scotia coastlines. After years of curated content, ALPHABET the loser, dissolved the platform and broke up our social group. I had over 50000 followers, which I manually cut back to 20000, I only follow people who engage. LIKE / BOOST is not engagement. Words are, real people, cats & dogs, daily life. Bots can LIKE @Rasta Only because I had to be. I never liked the platform, don't like having to engage with social media via a web page so never really bothered. @FreakyFwoof Oh, I found it like here, extremely different caliber of people. Facebook was all privacy breaches and drama, and Google Plus had geeks, who were smart enough to use it, so they were already miles above the intelligence of the FB users I had encountered. @nellie_m @Rasta @FrostPoem I’ve never been accused of being cool, and many would tag funny onto that (I was called infantile yesterday 🤭) so that’s never going to be a problem. @nellie_m @FrostPoem @MaJ1 I know some fonts can still be read, not "Fancy" but basic block lettering. Readers are getting better, I'm told some can pull text off an image. I don't have a reader, but I think if you have a phone, you can have text read to you, and that will tell if your font is readable, but just in case, I took off *bold*. @rain It did thanks so much. 🫶🖖 The ing thing is kind of cultural, and I’m glad it doesn’t bother peeps too much 😊 @rain @MaJ1 @khoji @rain It’s all about the bottom line! Note that 3 of the 4 of the examples are not actually emoji that display in the message. Only the Pascal Case example is real. The others are just fake shortcodes. @symmetricalboy @MaJ1 That's a great question. Camel case is absolutely preferred. Whenever I manually add emoji to our instance, I always add them like that. Underscores also work for me, but depending on the user, the symbol itself may also be read aloud @symmetricalboy @MaJ1 Nah there's not much difference, I was using the terms Camel and Pascal interchangeably, sorry for not being clear. The synthesis process that makes this work doesn't care about the initial capital, so long as the words are separated by a case change Thank you so much!! I will soon be sending out HUNDREDS of ACCESSIBLE emoji into the Fediverse! So this makes me very happy to have your input added to the consideration!! :BlobCheer: Wait, are you telling me that that emoji labeled as Pascal could potentially be read as the internal file name "9d347d3907f7da11.gif"?!?! 😱 @symmetricalboy @MaJ1 Not in my client or in any clients I know of, thankfully! In every fedi client I've used so far, it reads the shortcodes only @gaptangle @rain This is good 😊 Just out of interest what does that last emoji sequence say ? It’s something I tend to use a lot. @rain @gaptangle Close, for Vulcan salute read “Live long and prosper “ it’s a very particular Vulcan salute, damn those emoji translators 🤦♂️😊 @MaJ1 @gaptangle Yeah, I know which one it is because nerd, but some will be confused. Of course lots of screen readers have symbol dictionaries where you can customize how symbols are read out, and now you've mentioned it, I'm changing that one in mine 😎🖖 @MaJ1 @gaptangle That's on Windows with the NVDA screen reader. on iOS, VoiceOver says "hands in a heart shape", and then the Vulcan salute is actually described ("hand with fingers split between middle and ring fingers". VO is known for its somewhat verbose emoji descriptions, that one's not on you! 😸 @rain @gaptangle What have these translator developers never watched Star Trek! Sorry, but now my merry band of peeps is growing I want to be as inclusive as possible , (I know I’ve got work to do on my alt-texts ) and once again technology is being failed by the humans driving it. Anyway 🫶🖖 (much love, live long and prosper! ) @MaJ1 @gaptangle It can certainly be frustrating when technology gets in the way of our goals for inclusion, but your inclusion is so very appreciated all the same. Peace and long life! @MaJ1 @rain I say usually just because I miss a lot of my tl so I'm not sure what everyone's up to a lot of the time. I like emoji and I'd use them more if I felt more confident about knowing how they're interpreted. There's a vocal chunk of the VI community that doesn't like them at all. It depends. Most of our Windows clients have options to display at least display names and sometimes everything without emoji. |
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@MaJ1 Emoji reads out totally fine. Just watch spamming them, especially if it's before your content, because that can be a lot to wade through. The Ing thing is going to be a little person dependent. I don't mind it but it does make things read a little strangely sometimes.