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Johannes Ernst

So these two eminent #AI researchers think that -- I'm paraphrasing, based on my understanding of what they are saying -- if you parrot the statistics enough, but parrot on ever-higher levels of abstraction ("higher-level features"), that teh parroting behavior not only is indistinguishable from understanding, but is actually understanding.

Worth listening to, particularly the second part.

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Ryan Peach

@J12t yes I 100% agree with that. Which is easier? Learning to parrot every x + y = z math equation, or learning the meaning of +? Just by auto regression, you can develop higher order understandings. This is obvious when you use GPT. Ironically GPT is not great at math, it’s not a good domain for them IMO, but it’s just an example of how autoregressive algorithms can learn meaning.

Johannes Ernst

@ryanpeach There are some great Richard Feynman recordings on "what it really means to understand something" or such. I am doubtful that he'd agree. (That of course doesn't mean it isn't true -- but it's unclear to me how to tell either way)

Ryan Peach

@J12t it’s all very philosophical, I think we should stick to the science. Metrics about how well it handles out-sample QA. Experiments to make it find novel scientific discoveries. Etc.

Ryan Peach

.@J12t with centuries of philosophy trying to understand (and failing) philosophy of mind, sentience, understanding, and especially our history of miscategorizing beings into “inhuman” and therefore not morally applicable beings (slaves, animals), I’m entirely focused on Karl Poppers falsification criteria for all these ideas, rather than trying to justify them as true.

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