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moirearty

@newsorpigal @herrbischoff @nixCraft in CS-adjacent fields the qualification screws them. If they’re nontechnical entirely above admin level tasks it’s pointless, unless you have thousands in your org.

I’m convinced PMI is a scam that trains people how to do a convincing job to upper mgmt and a useless job for anyone else.

PMs are just as like many MBAs, a few are great but most of the excellent ones found their own path to the biz / mgmt career they’re in and it wasn’t by starting off there.

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moirearty

@newsorpigal @herrbischoff @nixCraft I’ve worked at bloated corporations and a company without middle management entirely and they are so much more efficient.

Rank and file people had no more than a few meetings a week and just did their damn jobs, and they lead the industry niche they are in.

Their core technology beats out other companies who are an order of magnitude larger.

Amount of “scrum master” titles: 0. Idiotic agile-XP / flavor of the year methodologies wasting everyone’s time: 0.

Marcel Bischoff

@moirearty @newsorpigal @nixCraft Agreed again. This is an entirely different and sane working environment with fundamentally different thinking though. PMs are one result of problematic company organisation and copying others without understanding _why_ it works what they do in the first place. Agile and Scrum and whatnot can work, sometimes. But you can’t tack it onto something existing. You need to throw everything out and need a capable PM. Which brings us back to square one.

moirearty

@herrbischoff @newsorpigal @nixCraft Yeah, definitely. And you also need to have a company with almost entirely self-starter high end developers, which isn’t cheap or easy but it’s a lot cheaper than having all of the structure for others. I’ve been very lucky to see startups rise and fall, work at big corps as well a research-oriented ones and at this point I could probably write a book.

“AI’s” impact is going to expose & wreck PM /middle management IMO, the $ people will catch on eventually.

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