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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

Mastodon improving the onboard experience is great. The wannabe fedi-police will be out in force against a default instance i’ve no doubt and I’ve already seen numerous complaints about it.

It’s not “growth for the sake of growth” or against the idea of decentralisation. It’s just a small basic change to improve the flow for new people to get people started. Good stuff.

Also quote toots coming, yay!

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Tom Spettigue

@gamingonlinux tbh, depends on the changes. some can definitely be anti-decentralization if, for example, signups are automatically sent to mastodon.social, etc. that said, do you know where i might be able to read about some of these upcoming changes?

Skylar Caulfield :verified:

@gamingonlinux mastodon.social has many problems, having everyone who isn't tech savvy on one instance presents a problem, once the instance is large enough it can become impossible to defederate without losing 99% of the user base. This could become an issue for minority groups if let's say mastodon decided to allow "free political discussion" and let right-wing people, debate "trans people" on whether or not they are allowed to exist. It would be nearly impossible to deal with this behavior.

I suggest instance admin defederate them now!!!

@gamingonlinux mastodon.social has many problems, having everyone who isn't tech savvy on one instance presents a problem, once the instance is large enough it can become impossible to defederate without losing 99% of the user base. This could become an issue for minority groups if let's say mastodon decided to allow "free political discussion" and let right-wing people, debate "trans people" on whether or not they are allowed to exist. It would be nearly impossible to deal with this behavior.

Pellitory

@gamingonlinux

It most definitely IS a challenge to decentralisation.

Feels a bit Animal Farm actually.

No quote toots good, quote toots better!

#mastodon #fediverse

ArtilectZed

@gamingonlinux Yeah, it's not like you're forever locked in to mastodon.social. Its *super* easy to migrate to new instances.

I started out on mastodon.social, and I've moved instances a few times.

Not too excited about quoting, but eh, maybe I'll come to appreciate it later?

Flit 🦊 🔥

@gamingonlinux I don't think onboarding is a big problem, but I do think they could have handled onboarding in a better way.

It's also very clear that they're not really paying attention to feedback, what with this Github issue having over 400 upvotes: github.com/mastodon/mastodon-i
Which I'm not a fan of, regardless of what the decision is. Isn't this supposed to be an open source project? Aren't our voices supposed to mean something?

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

@flit people going to github to moan and vote don’t represent the majority of users

Flit 🦊 🔥

@gamingonlinux Does it have to be the majority of users? That's their communication channel, they ought to look at it if they recommend that people go there to give feedback

Brent "the birdman" Loon

@gamingonlinux It's all good news no matter what others say. They can still move to a different server after they sign up. And quote-posts will make it easier to add context to other posts.

Ceremus :t_blink:

@gamingonlinux The issue I see with auto-signups to the biggest instance isn't with decentralization directly, but with the moderation issues that instance has been having since long before now.

I've heard of several instances taking the nuclear option of defederating M.S due to harassment of their users and the lack of moderating them on M.S's behalf. If their moderation was lacking then, encouraging rapid growth of their population won't improve it.

e.g.: dice.camp/@sage/10979069357025

@gamingonlinux The issue I see with auto-signups to the biggest instance isn't with decentralization directly, but with the moderation issues that instance has been having since long before now.

I've heard of several instances taking the nuclear option of defederating M.S due to harassment of their users and the lack of moderating them on M.S's behalf. If their moderation was lacking then, encouraging rapid growth of their population won't improve it.

Oven🧪

@gamingonlinux Ive been saying for ages, if mastodon wants to be a mainstrameam platform it neeeeds to default new users to a specific instance!

Owl!🦉

@gamingonlinux

> Also quote toots coming, yay!
This will end up bad.
We should cure people from twitter degeneracy, not supporting it!

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