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Scott Laird

@marcan ahh, this reminds me of a different server Ethernet power problem I once had. Around 2000, we'd just received a new batch of test servers for the lab, before changing our new POP buildouts. These were using Intel's first generation of IPMI motherboards. I racked them up at the end of the day on Friday, then came back on Monday and went to install them, and 0 of 12 would even POST. I hit the power button, LEDs lit up, but no video, and nothing happened.

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Scott Laird

@marcan I unracked one and moved it to the bench. Plugged it in, booted fine. WTF?

It took me a shockingly long time to figure out that I'd racked them and installed Ethernet and KVM cables (test lab...) but had totally failed to finish the *power* cables on Friday before leaving.

But they were able to pull enough current over the *Ethernet* cable somehow to power the BMC, which controlled the front panel LEDs, so the power switch actually "worked".

Hector Martin

@laird I bet it was the KVM cables. There's no way for Ethernet to power anything other than via PoE (which needs explicit hardware on the receiving end), but HDMI/VGA cables have a convenient 5 volt pin. It's supposed to be from the machine to the monitor, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if some random KVMs get that backwards and backfeed power into the hosts...

Scott Laird

@marcan that's pretty much what I'd expected at the time, but the problem followed the Ethernet cable. I could repro with nothing else plugged in.

This was (iirc) an Intel L440BX+ motherboard and an early Cisco 4006 switch. I'm pretty confident that whatever was happening, it was *way* out of spec.

Intel's first couple server boards (the T440BX and L440BX+) were *weird*. Like, the T440BX powered the CPU from the PSU's 3.3V line, drawing 2x the amps most early ATX PSUs provided.

Scott Laird

@marcan ah, L440GX+, not BX+. That was the one where the AGP bus was bridged into an extra 64-bit PCI bus.

Hector Martin

@laird That... that must really have been out of spec. If it was not PoE I have no idea how you managed to power a BMC though a transformer-coupled Ethernet link!

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