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Mark Shane Hayden

@vfrmedia @VictorVenema @yhancik I had 2 YT comments in a row disappear without warning or feedback a few weeks ago and each contained links to different external sites (one to a well known credible blog, another to a peertube instance). Didn't know why...thought I got banned in some way but then a later comment stuck.

I guess the mystery is solved :blobcheeky:

I guess the silos are catching on to the POSSE strategy (Publish Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere) and trying to suppress it, but in my opinion that is anti-competitive behaviour and any antitrust decrees should ban the Silos from doing this (only malicious links found through human moderation or user reports should be acted upon)

9 Sep 2021 at 1:55 | Wall-to-wall | Open on coales.co
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Mark Shane Hayden

@vfrmedia @VictorVenema @yhancik the Social Silos and their algorithms have fostered a culture of extreme and sometimes illogical suspicion as well.

From May of 2017 when I set up my masto server until Jan 1 2018 when I deleted my Facebook account all my posts were links to my posts on coales.co (my first real attempt at POSSE). FB didn't seem to remove or overtly suppress them but engagement went WAY down, and literally about half the responses I got were DMs from friends saying something like "hey I'm getting all these posts from you linking to this weird coales.co site I think you have a virus"

*sigh*

So I resolved to quit FB for 2018 and have enjoyed the (bliss of missing out) ever since.

@vfrmedia @VictorVenema @yhancik the Social Silos and their algorithms have fostered a culture of extreme and sometimes illogical suspicion as well.

From May of 2017 when I set up my masto server until Jan 1 2018 when I deleted my Facebook account all my posts were links to my posts on coales.co (my first real attempt at POSSE). FB didn't seem to remove or overtly suppress them but engagement went WAY down, and literally about half the responses I got were DMs from friends saying something like "hey...

9 Sep 2021 at 2:09 | Open on coales.co
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@msh @VictorVenema @yhancik

there's also marketing tactics of startup social networks (including LinkedIn at one point) where they try and email all of your contacts to get them to join..

there may be is a case to use legislation against this, but it will vary between countries and there would need to be proof found that GAFAM are colluding to only share links amongst themselves (YT links on Facebook groups seem to get through) and its not local moderators leaving default setting active..

9 Sep 2021 at 11:33 | Open on social.tchncs.de
YHANCI~1.TXT

@vfrmedia @msh @VictorVenema and there's Instagram simply not supporting any link, giving us the cursed "link in bio" thing.

I think there's definitely a certain hostility toward hypertext in their algos, and I suspect there is valid concerns for spam & malware, meeting their own interests in keeping people on their app.

Spam is actually the argument used by Pixelfed for copying the anti-link approach of Instagram. And I was just thinking the other day... spam really does ruin a lot of things

11 Sep 2021 at 13:37 | Open on octodon.social
YHANCI~1.TXT

@vfrmedia @msh @VictorVenema it's an irrelevant anecdote, but I noticed last week that the newsletter of the non-profit where I work gets a high amount of hard bounces from mail providers whenever I've used an harmless unicode character in the subject. And of course, that's all because spammers have been abusing unicode characters to, among other things, circumvent spam filters.

11 Sep 2021 at 13:42 | Open on octodon.social
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