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hnapel

@molly0xfff

Reminds me of stories about trackers... on a page with a bunch of trackers blocked by Ublock Origin. 🤦

Viss

@molly0xfff not even AI could write these jokes - they write themselves :D

Shirley Eugest

@chriswarren @molly0xfff
True, but not as funny w/o the juxtaposition of the subscription prompt.

Fen 😷

@EugestShirley @chriswarren @molly0xfff It's there at the bottom. You might have to click through to see it.

Chris Warren

@srobalino @EugestShirley @molly0xfff

my Mastodon client (Ivory) displays the whole image in the preview without having to click through

I might be missing something, but if I’m following your argument, it’s that your client (which appears to be the official Mastodon one) doesn’t and so therefore linking to that post isn’t a worthwhile contribution to the conversation?

Shirley Eugest

@chriswarren @srobalino @molly0xfff

I'm sorry if my stray remark offended you. I'll delete it if you like.
You are right, every instance, every device and every personal device setting affects what a viewer sees or gets clipped.

I found this thread delightful and funny. Wasn't trying to vex or brawl.

Merrit DeBartolo MD (he/him)

@molly0xfff
🎶 “It’s like ra-yee-aiiiin, on your wedding day…”

neijatolf
@molly0xfff This seems to be some kind of running gag in US online media lately.
Bloomberg website showing an article titled "We're Drowning in Subscriptions", complaning about how Netflix, Amazon Prime etc. require to subscribe. Most the actual article is unreadable because it is covered by an overlay, asking the user to subscribe to Bloomberg to continue reading.
Kevin Karhan :verified:

@duk @molly0xfff I wounder if the people who chose to #paywall said content are #sarcastic geniuses or already on their way out and not getting aid enough to give f**ks...

I mean it doesn't matter in the end, but I really like the result...

That being said, we have options like 12ft.io/ to fix the #Paywalling issue...

Wisconsin, Hello!

@duk @molly0xfff oh, and if you want to publish in Nature, you have to PAY them $3,500 for the privilege of having others pay Nature to read it..

And then you're not allowed to share it with others unless it's a preprint..

Eric :biohazard:

@joule @duk @molly0xfff for info open access publication in Nature Publishing Group is about 10,000 €...
That's why preprints are the best way to avoid this.

Sam

@molly0xfff I'm not a fan of the great man theories either.

Darwin Woodka

@molly0xfff I bought a retail today and when they asked for my email I just noped right out. Sick of companies wanting to email me bullshit too.

Resting Facebitch

@molly0xfff I actually cackled so loud several people on the train thought iI was insane.

(They're not wrong tho...)

We Want EVERYTHING! 🌹

@molly0xfff

I'm rethinking my relationship to Amazon Prime. It's $20 a month and they still treat their workers like shit so where is that money going, exactly?

#Amazon #AmazonPrime #Workers

Sully1503

@molly0xfff My favorite was during the height of COVID all information regarding COVID, especially local, was behind a paywall.

Sue

@NecroBelch @sully1503 @molly0xfff

It was the Wall Street Journal, which has had the hardest paywall I've encountered since its inception. I was quoted in an article in the 90s and I had to go buy a damn paper to see it.

Sully1503

@NecroBelch @SueShannon @molly0xfff I did mention COVID-19 information and I live in DC so WAPO would be local. But I think something like a pandemic, the information should be behind paywalls.

Crab With Knife

@molly0xfff 12ft.io/ 👀 👀 👀

For getting around paywalls, in case anyone in this thread needed it.

Saltbreez

@_CrabWithKnife_ @molly0xfff

That was the best post I have seen in recent memory! I would expect that on the #anarchy channel...

DB Schwein

@molly0xfff
I believe this puts the mail in the coffin for anyone who still thinks the NYT isn't a conservative paper now.
Only US conservatives seem to have this absolute block from acknowledging that yes, things *also* apply to you.

Matthias Rex 🦣

@molly0xfff I'm donating to environmental charities for each of the subscriptions I've cancelled.

Southern Liberal

@molly0xfff
We should unsubscribe from WSJ's existence, begone with that conservative, propagandic phony of a news outlet!

Robert Denby

@molly0xfff
(French chef accent): "Le Irony, she is dead!"

Verain

@molly0xfff This is so terrible it almost circles around to being beautiful.

unlink :bisexual_flag:

@molly0xfff @necrosis i don’t really have a problem with subscriptions as long as it’s for something I can get daily use out of with consistent updates. But software that only updates once every half moon? :/

Andrew Beeston

@molly0xfff Amazing. I'd love to see this on mobile, if you could even see the page.

Clara Listensprechen {Mdon}

@molly0xfff
What took so long? The old business model was an extinct dinosaur ages ago.

JK Lund

@molly0xfff This is why my substack doesn't have one. I don't like subscriptions either.

Todd

@molly0xfff on the bright side, in 2 years we should be able to see the free ai written version of this type of article. With a few good hallucinations for entertainment.

Heretical_i

@molly0xfff Maybe that's because all they're reading at the WSJNYTETC are lies, and they figure 'why pay for this'?

Besides... removepaywall.com 😎 12ft.io and other sites

kraken 🇨🇦🌻️👀️:Habs:

@molly0xfff I'm one of those that won't get a subscription to MAYBE read 1 article every few months.

AlexisDyslexic

@molly0xfff aka people are sick of tracking with ever transaction. I'm going to start going back to cash only & no rewards programs for all in person transaction.

zeruch

@johnmark @molly0xfff its either a great use case for a Subscription "ActivityPub" model that lets one discovery, un/sub services, and manage centrally.

Or, its time to melt the SaaS (Sysiphysian-Insanity as a Service) model currently en vogue.

DELETED

@molly0xfff Thank goodness for public libraries eh?

okilloran

@molly0xfff so…you need a subscription to read the article on subscriptions? 🤔😬

Boris Vulikh

@molly0xfff That's why companies like SetApp have a business. They replace multiple subscriptions and purchases with one.

𝕂𝚞𝚋𝚒𝚔ℙ𝚒𝚡𝚎𝚕™

@newsorpigal
1) 12ft.io don't work on the WSJ.
2) Where is your irony detector?

@molly0xfff

Matty

@molly0xfff people may say it's hypocrisy.
but can easily be a writer and editor - heck, the whoe team even - who know and acknowledge it's a problem, but are unable to change the company rules by themselves.
The headlight still brings attention to the problem.

On the other hand, 'companies rethinking' does not mean anything will change in any significant way; specially given that I've seen articles as such years and years ago; but pay/subscription walls are still all around

Fabio Manganiello

@molly0xfff that's why I keep pirating, scraping, use NoScript to bypass their paywalls, build my custom RSS feeds and all, and I don't feel ashamed a bit.

I used to be a decent citizen who just likes to read news from multiple outlets, and I ended up paying about $400 a month in subscriptions just to read an average of 5-10 articles a day. That's between $1.3-2.6 per article. For me the average cost per article was as high (if not higher) as buying a whole old-fashioned newspaper with tens of articles in it - which has higher print and distribution costs to cover that can justify the price tag a bit more. And let's not get started when it comes to academic publishers.

We can't complain about "people using the internet without actually getting more informed" when all the routes to quality information have a freaking paywall on it, and if you read more than 3 articles from a source you're automatically supposed to purchase a you-can-never-leave subscription - most of these folks have made it very easy to subscribe, but hard to unsubscribe unless you directly contact their customer service, which in turn will try to convince you to stay and make you feel like a horrible person for canceling. When quality information hides behind subscription walls, of course low-quality clickbaiters will come in and fill the gap, what else did we expect?

Most of those outlets aren't even considering a pay-per-article route - which would be a reasonable trade-off. It's not profitable, it doesn't get the user "locked-in", it doesn't build a "stable stream of revenue", bla bla.

If an industry is so dumb and fails to listen to its users for so long, it deserves piracy.

@molly0xfff that's why I keep pirating, scraping, use NoScript to bypass their paywalls, build my custom RSS feeds and all, and I don't feel ashamed a bit.

I used to be a decent citizen who just likes to read news from multiple outlets, and I ended up paying about $400 a month in subscriptions just to read an average of 5-10 articles a day. That's between $1.3-2.6 per article. For me the average cost per article was as high (if not higher) as buying a whole old-fashioned newspaper with tens of articles...

Long Tong

@molly0xfff Now it’s literally ‘this subscription is not part of your subscription’.

#FT #FinancialTimes

iPhone screenshot of a Financial Times article titled “The rent is still too damn high…” behind a paywall.
Adam Lipkin

@molly0xfff As an aside, you know that you can get a free sub there thanks to your employer, right?

(I assume you already know other ways to bypass, of course)

NYC Glue

@molly0xfff I subscribed to many sites with $1 for 6 month offers and noticed that many were offering gift links which leads me to believe they use the same billing service and the gifting thing is a checkbox.

Political Janitor

@molly0xfff i’m super strict on signing up for subscriptions these days. I don’t look at it like “oh it’s only $12!” but rather “Do I really want to spend $144/year on this?”

rarely is the answer yes.

Melanie

@molly0xfff interesting - I just told hubs two nights ago, “I’m all subscription’d out” as I decided to forgo a service that had switched to subscription-only.

PetterOfCats

@molly0xfff all that's missing is a Google account sign in popup and another "please think of our ad revenue" popup covering everything, followed by a java alert demanding to know my location or accept push "notifications".

Orca🌻 | 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

@molly0xfff@hachyderm.io
WSJ: Consumers are rethinking their relationship to subscriptions—and so are companies.
WSJ: But not us. Now pay your subscription fees or get tf out.
🙃

Rose, Naenia Typica

@molly0xfff

It isn't a NYT/WSJ article if it doesn't commit the same sin it is concerned about.

**eyeing every article describing concern about transgender hate rhetoric

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