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Jan :rust: :ferris:

I've recently thought about if there is not an easier to learn alternative to ...and maybe even in !?

My inner voice: Come on, you are a dreamer!

Well...sometimes dreams come true:

- A new markup-based typesetting system that is powerful and easy to learn.

typst.app/

It is in beta and open source:
github.com/typst/typst

21 comments
musicmatze :rust: :nixos:

@janriemer a friend just replaced their custom markdown+pandoc setup with typst and likes it better already!

I am looking forward to see typst progress!

Mark Derricutt (talios)

@musicmatze @janriemer I’d recently starting moving some Longform docs to use Markdown->Sile->PDF - this looks much nicer tho. I wonder if this could all be wrapped in in a WASM build Obsidian plugin.

Jan :rust: :ferris:

@musicmatze Very cool to hear! 👍

Yeah, Markdown is pretty good, but it's just _too_ simple.

Yes, looking forward to typst progression as well. I think this thing will age like fine wine. 🍷 🙂

glyn

@janriemer Very interesting! Given TeX had a 40+ year start and was implemented by Don Knuth, I suspect it will be a little while before Typst overtakes it in terms of features, quality of output (esp. fonts), and adoption. OTOH maybe Typst won't eat your hard drive.

Jan :rust: :ferris:

@underlap Yes, you are right - I mean, what an undertaking, isn't it!?

Typst developers are saying that they have been working on this for 4 years now. I can't imagine how much work it takes to build such a thing.

Very impressive! 🎩

> OTOH maybe Typst won't eat your hard drive. 😅

Mark Derricutt (talios)

@janriemer @musicmatze NICE! I had been looking at/playing with Sile recently which is all Lua based. And syntactically similar to - but this looks awesome.

Jan :rust: :ferris:

@talios I didn't know about Sile. Looks interesting, thanks! 🙂

Mark Derricutt (talios)

@janriemer Came across it awhile ago - have only toyed with it off and on tho. Really liking the look of Typst tho. That, and it being rust ;-)

Mark Derricutt (talios)

@janriemer I just had a thought post lunch, Typst reminds me a lot of Racket’s Scribble doc language (docs.racket-lang.org/scribble/) - especially with the way there’s embedded code/scripting in the markup.

Jan :rust: :ferris:

@talios Oh, Scribble looks really interesting. I've never heard of it before. Embedded code/scripting sounds powerful. Thank you for sharing! 💗

Mark Derricutt (talios)

@janriemer Does typest support footnotes currently? Didn’t spot it (or something similar under a different name) in the docs at all.

Mark Derricutt (talios)

@janriemer Saw that in the GH discussions - I’m enjoying typest so far - mind you, only played with some small things so far.

グレェ「grey」

@janriemer does typst.app handle vertically aligned, right to left orthographic systems (e.g. Chinese, Japanese)?

LaTeX does not.

For that, you need something such as UpLaTeX.

Jan :rust: :ferris:

@byterhymer Good question. I don't know.

Disclaimer: this is _not_ my project (someone else has made it look like it was).

Sorry, if it has come across that way. I've just recently thought about exactly such thing.

グレェ「grey」

@janriemer No worries!

I have a particular interest in CJKV (Chinese Japanese Korean Vietnamese, also the title of a book by Ken Lunde, an expert in such subject matter) typesetting since Japanese is my second language.

I looked over typst's documentation, they do support right to left (e.g. for Hebrew) but not vertical alignment as far as I could find in their reference materials. So, not too useful for my field of interest. Thankfully, UpLaTeX is increasingly mature.

Dave Warnock

@janriemer I thought it looked nice too but who only wants to go to pdf these days?
Most writers don't need maths equations but we do need html, pdf, epub, mobi.
Looking at it I'm thinking a relatively simple transformation from mdBook plus the formating template becomes a nice way to get high quality from and

Christoph

@janriemer Just found your toot!
My general comment on this (not only related to you):
My first thought was: Why must there be another typesetting-solution?
On the one hand I am open for new things:
I like and have started learning it for not worth mentioning mini-projects. And I did some research for -replacements for daily tools and more. (Just found someone who has tried to rebuild in )
On the other hand I seem to be a bit old-fashioned: I am …

Christoph

using ( and ) for more than two decades sometimes with more and sometimes with less intensity. I appreciate that hard work done in the past years to develop and I see the hard work on themes like or or tagged by so many hard developing people. And then I found some weeks ago the not so new by Martin Ruckert.
Of course is often complicated, but with the work that went into the project and the enhancements, it’s not clear to me…

Christoph

that it’s really necessary to throw all this away.

So why another solution? I hope that is a way to reach new and young users to typeset in a sophisticated way.

But nevertheless, I am positively excited how far this will go. And I will have a look at .

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