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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

I am pretty tired of the argument in the FOSS community of "you can't tell them what to do in their free time", "you're getting it free" etc etc every time people discuss features, what's missing, what they want etc.

Might as well never discuss or want anything with that line of thinking.

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catraxx

@gamingonlinux Tbh i have only seen this reaction when people demand things.

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@gamingonlinux I don't get this either. And I see it all the time. Personally I don't see anything wrong with going to a developer and politely asking if it's possible to add an option or change a thing.

Simon Brooke

@gamingonlinux Scratch your own itch.

Entitled users demanding work of other people who already give generously of their time is a very bad look. Make your own contribution to the gift economy. Earn your place in it.

Give something back.

Atrapado🌴🍫

@gamingonlinux hey i got problem.

Go fuck off, this is FOSS

How many times i've heard it 🤦

Aurimas Černius

@gamingonlinux there is a difference between discussing/suggesting and demanding.

kujeger

@gamingonlinux anecdotally, I guess, but I usually only see those kind of responses when people show up and demand stuff, usually accompanied by insults -- not politely suggesting or discussing features

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

It should go without saying: I don't mean people actually acting like arseholes or literally demanding things.

The problem is how the above has quickly become what everyone is told when even just discussing features, or the lack of them.

kujeger

@gamingonlinux looks like I've been lucky not to come across that then! Maybe it's more common in certain parts of the FOSS sphere?

Anꞇóin Ó B.

@gamingonlinux

It's paradox of tolerance for internet moderation.

If a forum is going to support a culture where contributions are freely expressed, it has to have moderators who know what a "pipe down" looks like and aggressively suppress them.

This obviously provokes "mods censored me! mods censored me!" which is both a surface analysis, criticism and a fact.

I think forums where posting rules are strict and membership is an uncommon privilege have squared that circle already in the past.

slembcke

@gamingonlinux Yeah... There's a spectrum between discussion and entitlement, and the internet tends to be a bad place for that kind of subtlety. >_>

Sayuri Firebrand 💛 ⬜️ 💜 🖤‏

@gamingonlinux I think the problem isn't the statement, you really CAN'T dictate what someone does in their free time, its the fact its someone speaking for someone else. If anyone has the right to tell you that, its the person doing the actual work and not some weird stan.

Pinheiro@KDE

@gamingonlinux yes, and any one that works enough on a large enough and public enough open project, needs to learn to ignore the random feedback from the internet.
I had a burn out on opensource, and I'm back at it after some years but... The thing is most of the abusive people don't think they are they genuinely want to help. But it takes a toll on you...

Trantion

@gamingonlinux I'd put along with that "If you want the feature, implement it yourself". Sure, more people contributing to a project is usually a good thing, but not everyone can, and those who could are more likely to be put off with that attitude.

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