Sure, it sucks that the web was turned into a horrendous bloated platform for applications โ but when you consider that the alternative we almost ended up with was everyone being forced to use Windows, it's not so bad.
mathew ๐ฆโ
Sure, it sucks that the web was turned into a horrendous bloated platform for applications โ but when you consider that the alternative we almost ended up with was everyone being forced to use Windows, it's not so bad. 20 comments
JauntyWunderKind
@vertigo i keep thinking someone needs to lead the way & build an app that is a small localhost-only server that opens a web page. rather than smoosh a web-browser and a server-side engine together as electron does, provide some basically invisible native services to the client on localhost only. not to everyones taste but i'd love it so so much more than electron. i have no love for native apps.
Vertigo #$FF
i keep thinking someone needs to lead the way & build an app that is a small localhost-only server that opens a web page. rather than smoosh a web-browser and a server-side engine together as electron does, Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you're literally describing a web-browser and server-side engine, exactly as Electron does. What am I missing?
dch
@jauntywunderkind420 @vertigo also better security as electron apps allow direct local fileystem access
Vertigo #$FF
@jauntywunderkind420 OK, I see; I missed the part where the browser wasn't included. My bad. That's certainly a vast improvement, I'll admit.
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@jauntywunderkind420 @vertigo PicoLisp's UI operates like this.
Patrick Georgi
mathew ๐ฆโ
@vertigo The hard part of cross-platform application delivery is creating the GUI, and web technologies are easier and cheaper for that than basically anything else, at the cost of not providing a native UI experience. I'm not aware of WASM doing anything to improve that, but I haven't looked into it much.
Vertigo #$FF
I'm not aware of WASM doing anything to improve that, but I haven't looked into it much Exactly why I am upset about the situation.
Adrian Cochrane
mathew ๐ฆโ
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@mathew @alcinnz @vertigo One of my big gripes is that all this web stuff is happening *at the expense of* comprehensive cross platform GUI libraries. We still have Qt, but C++ sucks. The biggest Rust GUI libraries have around 100 contributors. That's a small fraction of the labor that goes into Qt. |
@mathew couldn't have said it better myself. but i tried to say it.
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