30 years ago today, we started putting images on the web. Marc Andreessen proposed adding the IMG tag to HTML.
30 years ago today, we started putting images on the web. Marc Andreessen proposed adding the IMG tag to HTML. 35 comments
@aburka in the early days of consensus internet a working implementation went a lot further than a proposal that would get bikeshedded to death on Usenet, tho. Proud as I am to have been blocked by MA on Twitter ages ago for politely calling bullshit on some fuckery or other, this isn't the worst way to go about presenting an idea for negotiating a change to a standard. "Let's try it, and if it works, share with others" isn't a bad approach. @reneestephen @aburka @dragosr Rough consensus and running code. “Rough consensus” loosely defined @reneestephen @dragosr I remember about three years later when grad students started asking for SLIP/PPP accounts so they could get images dialed in. I thought "Well, I guess if you think you need it..." @dragosr Between that and the BLINK tag, it's been downhill ever since. (Dammit, where in hell is the old-man-in-a-rocking-chair emoji when I want it.) @dragosr Related: The first image on the web was from CERN's all-girl science rock band: https://www.themarginalian.org/2014/07/18/les-horribles-cernettes/ Their one album is actually pretty great. @dragosr Back in the days when Marc was making decent suggestions. Before <blink>, that is. @dragosr @chris To think; "XBM" and "XPM" formats were the ones that they thought made the most sense to support initially. I've been involved with computers and the web for 30+ years, and I don't recall ever using those formats for anything. TIFF? sure. BMP? absolutely. GIF? Obviously. I even remember how revolutionary it was when I discovered JPG on a BBS. XBM/XPM? Not at all. @cgrymala @dragosr @chris it’s a while ago, so I may misremember, but I think this was because xpm and xbm were among the very few image formats without patent encumberments. A lot of software used those formats internally, so it’s not surprising that you didn’t interact with them as files, though. Most of the image formats you know now are more popular now because of combinations of patents expiring and more permissive licenses (read and display not having a royalty, for example) @dragosr ...and today, in 21st century, increasing number of websites are unable (unwilling?) to display those images without browsers enabling #Javascript. Oh my, how we have regressed. @dragosr "..MIME someday, maybe" -- aaaagghhhh.. I've spent MONTHS working on code that takes mime format child entity references and round trips them with browser viable html references and back. @dragosr http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0182.html @dragosr so, this is the guy to blame for modern web design /j
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@dragosr So the dynamic of "standard" as "I have implemented this in my browser and now the rest of you must too or you'll be behind" started right at the beginning