@BartWronski @bignose in case anyone wants to read the original, here’s a gift link https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/podcasts/ezra-klein-podcast-ted-chiang-transcript.html?unlocked_article_code=o9t3OLaxkOnWRFoeG1qPHVQ3FtaJndKEtgWvSgaUmVEcnKIMnCW-b0adHrYA3QDX0g5LdkTm5-A6xdHsqrE9srDv7Z16iFFYmkkz3TlxPnEk9lMqpMwXNgye5hePjvd4qQ5cXLDG1ZPvZjZPEM2GJgl_YoUgcldRetZd8k2qXSw2K0ortaa8Nw-nC8EhOfVSeeaFjtB7EOaohSfeTSC_4F0DF_v9oGRj-odsMtAE7sF1Ai_YuE2MdIDNVnNGUi74J0KZI8Xl7rSK3EyraK5pTZHazFPk_bdi5vFDjcUoevo2aJoceq3o5M9y3khFN3YI68lmxJoq55jxBX7sfcJhEs7kNJBuftRmNNvjM4yykVDHIt-x&smid=url-share (I’ve unsubscribed but looks like I can still share articles till the end of the month, otherwise there’s always Archive.org)