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@yogthos @lispi314 I don't have much experience with our rail service, but having been using TransLink for years, their skytrain is amazing. And made me double-take at the "$160 one-way trip from Netherlands to France" the article writer took. Especially since a cursory check saw it as double the price one-way, and double the time, of an airline flight. @yogthos The distance from Boston to Philadelphia is about the same as that from Amsterdam to Paris. Surprise! There’s a train there too (Acela), with nice seats etc. The big problem the USA has is that it’s a large, empty country on a huge, empty continent. European countries are small, densely populated countries on a smallish peninsula off of Asia called Europe. @brianonbarrington China is the world leader in high speed rail, not exactly a small country last I checked @yogthos Geographically, it is small when it comes to populated areas. 90% of the country lives in the eastern 1/4 of the country, making rail a lot easier. Sort of like the northeastern USA (BosWash) corridor. @yogthos the distorted view of trains here in the US is strange. Take the Boring Company for example. They say they are going to build tunnels under cities that will have trams to carry people around to reduce or bypass traffic. Cities are clamoring to have them dig a hole for them. Meanwhile subways have existed for over 100 years and are in use around the world, including parts of the US. @yogthos Good god. Americans need to travel more. Guess what! Those Europeans riding the train have universal #healthcare coverage, too! And paid maternity/paternity leave. And vacation days and sick days. Yes, those things do exist. That is really cool and good to know, Thanks. @psychictides you mean you don't have to take a uber so that you don't get charged thousands of dollars for an ambulance? @yogthos Next up, a bunch of articles about why trains are bad actually and will never catch on. @yogthos Fediverse discovers a Twitter user discovering a journalist discovering trains. Context: https://twitter.com/juanbuis/status/1629072189956804609 @fluepke I've minded this gem from reddit I'll have you know :) https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageImperialism/comments/11cb3ba/american_journalist_discovers_a_train/ @yogthos I particularly love the part where you don’t have to strip down your belongings and walk through metal detectors. Just board the train, sit down and lean back. @yogthos Amsterdam to Paris really isn't that far... Wait until the author realizes you can actually get all the way to China from Venice. Or that the London to Paris line goes "under the sea!" 🤿 @yogthos I'm looking forward to discovering the heck out of them this summer. @yogthos the aviation lobby in North America will do absolutely ANYTHING to prevent any real fast or efficient passenger rail from being built. @yogthos American journalists will write in awe about European trains when they really should be writing about derailments in the USA. @yogthos this is not how journalism works. The author anticipates her readers‘ expectations, which in the US is that there is no competition to flying. Framing American authors as clueless is lazy just because they write from another perspective and most likely for another audience. @yogthos when my American colleagues discovered the ICE they never wanted to rent a car … and we could use the time to prepare for upcoming meetings with customers @yogthos I find it interesting that so many people assume that flying is going to remain a viable option for long-distance continental travel. Better to build up rail infrastructure while we still have the luxury of time. Hey, I discovered that great invention that is the «samovar» in 2010 in a train from Astana to Almatı. @yogthos Europe is a beautiful Continent. High speed trains sleeper trains and not expensive, and disabled friendly. I can travel from St Pancras international station to Transilvania, Brașov in 24 hours I reach my birth place. I prefer trains than planes. Plus to other destinations. @yogthos I used to take the train from Montréal to Toronto for business but on on my time. Much preferred. A civilized way to travel. And yes - I don't like to fly and I will and have. @yogthos To be fair, I experienced similar levels of awe and envy the first time I encountered European trains. @yogthos the wonders of civilised nations never cease to amaze those from inferior countries @yogthos While I love these message for their message about how train journeys are, it frustrates me that I never seem to be able to secure that $160 fare on the same journey. @yogthos Imagine that!! Sit down and relax! But it’s a good one thing people are writing about it. Finally.. @yogthos Since Brexit the Eurostar experience has gotten a bit worse, mostly because of the passport check. Otherwise, yes, this. @yogthos Trains are so cool, though! 💕 Wish we had more of them here in Eastern Europe. Instead, some of the lines between the countryside cities and the capital were shut down because there wasn't enough demand, despite buses between those being packed. @yogthos Rode this exact route while on vacation with my wife some years ago. It was a lovely travel experience. @yogthos to be fair except in major cities, there are very few passenger trains and none of them are high speed. Also car culture and the "freedom" of cars is ingrained and hard to overcome. One of the biggest obstacles is unlike most European countries that are very dense, vast areas of the US are very sparse and empty. @yogthos Geez, if they really wanted to discover how great trains are without leaving the US, they could've come to NYC and experienced the subway. I don't even own a car nor do I know how to drive. @yogthos Europe: Here is an inexpensive high speed rail system that is far more environmentally friendly than flying or driving. @yogthos but see, even paesants are able to use it. much better to fawn over vapourware shite like Elon's hyperloop brainfarts @yogthos @yogthos To be fair we practically do not have them here, not passenger rail in most places. Ironic since the rail road actually is very influential in early US history, but the car industry was much more influential in modern US history @yogthos I will continue to be loud and annoying about it: I've used Amtrak for several journeys across the northeast (down to NYC, over to Columbus, Ohio), and it's so much better than flying. It's not even comparable. Make Amtrak high-speed across the country and that'll encourage the airlines to sort their messes out right fast. @yogthos It hurts but the reality is that the #infrastructure is just so bad in the #USA that some people don't know that alternative transportation exists... @yogthos We don't really have trains here. I mean, I've been on Amtrak & CalTrain and...yeah. Thats how American trains work too. Its nice. And they don’t destroy your wheelchair as much too! @yogthos Yeah, although the US has tried to make trains as unpleasant as flying, by forcing everyone to wait until the last second then herding them like cattle onto the train, etc. @yogthos Unfortunately it isn’t always the best option. The train from Switzerland to Edinburgh takes 10x as long and costs double what a flight costs. @yogthos @CarrieSDickson ”Believe it or not, dear reader, these fast moving hollow tubes…” @yogthos @jules any time I go to Europe I come back to the US pissed off at our infrastructure. And I live in Chicago which has, well had, a decent public transit system. Staff shortages and whatever else have decimated the CTA. Any time I have used Amtrak the train broke down and had several hours of delays. One time they had to borrow an engine from a freight company to tow the train to the next town in central Illinois. @yogthos a few years ago I was going to a work conference from Philadelphia to DC. I told them I was going to go by train. They kept asking if I was sure I didn't want to fly down instead. Heck no! I love trains. @yogthos exactly. What we need way more of. And at the way things are going, it will easily probably end up having to be new line for high speed passenger for the freight lines to not be jerks and clog everything up. @yogthos what if you show them the 1st class Paris-North <-> Cologne rides starting at even laess per route... |
@yogthos To start and finish in the city must be the best feature with travel by train. By those comments a-bow by journalist is also preferable ant time-saving.