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 @kev we use a Linux phone running Tow Boot and mobile-nixos, with a software keyboard we wrote ourselves - Witchy Keys - and a heavily customized UI made from the i3 window manager, rofi, and polybar. it uh. it can place and receive calls but only from the command line at this point. that's fine, we don't really need to do that. lol   @kev I'm using Android but want to switch to the Pine64 PinePhone so I can use Linux (what I already use on my PC).  @jeremystartm @kev I run #Termux on my non-rooted #Android phone, which provides a usable #Debian distro under the phone's existing Android-flavoured #Linux. I did a lot of software dev on it when I was stuck in a hospital bed with not much to do (and physically unable to sit up to use a tablet or laptop): it worked well, given the limitations of the hardware interface. @david_megginson @kev For that usecase Termux is really good. But I want to run docker and stuff and that's just not compatible, even on a rooted Android phone unless you recompile the entire kernel (yikes). Not only that, but I want maximum privacy and having Android with Google, Samsung and Bloatware on my phone is way too much for me. @jeremystartm @kev Do any Android-device chips have the features required for containerisation? @david_megginson @jeremystartm @kev @david_megginson @kev The chips are not responsible for this. It's the Android kernel that forbids docker to use cgroups  After you do this ^^ poll, look through the replies. There's a reason the poll has that "Other" option. [edited typo] @kev Could you please tell us what your point is in trying to collect this information? @feverspell do you have any other type of mobile phone instead? If you drive what do you do for music and navigation? 😮 @dr3amfr0g Of course, I have a cell phone. I don't live in a cave in the woods. If I want to listen to music, I turn on the radio. If I need to go somewhere that requires complex navigation, I make sure my sister is with me, and she uses **her** phone. Otherwise, I write the directions down on a piece of paper. @feverspell if you have no need for one, then I’d avoid it and not bother if I were you. 😊  @kev @dylan_porcelli @kev I‘ve used sailfish long time, but lack of support on actual (!) hardware (official, aliendalvik is absolute must!), and the deep involvement of Russian Government since a few years drove me away from sfos. Now I run a dumb half-eaten seed-carrier, but I‘d not call this a satisfying solution  @kev I daily drive my #librem5 #librem5and tinker on a few #pinephone models which I used to daily before the l5. I'm also trying to get my #wiphone #wiphoneworking with #jmp #jmp jmp.chat @kev I marked Apple, but I usually switch between Apple and Android every time I upgrade. I like them both, but both have things that annoy me, so I try to mix it up every now and then.  @kev I use a a desktop P.C. or a laptop - and yes I have an Android phone but don't use it for social media. @16BitYeti @kev I‘m still missing those keys! With this crappy display ‚keys‘ without haptics, I‘m so slowed down in typing by one finger, I usually dictate what to write.  Very interesting. Looking at the numbers so far, despite Apple's control of about 15 to 20% of market share of the mobile phone market, they represent half of all users answering this poll. Interesting indeed. Input, anyone?  @iuculano Based on facts. A key market, e.g., India, with an overwhelming 98 percent Android population and the second or 3rd largest internet market in the world. Zero traction in the place. It's a country of mobile-first users and always hungry to try out new social networks. There is complete disinterest in it for most. @jayesh interesting. But if they're so hungry for new social networks, why the disinterest in Mastodon? @iuculano Now this is expanding beyond the simple asked question into territory only the foolish will try and answer. The question originally was "why is iOS higher in usage here vs. Android which is the dominant world OS". Since i work with mobile metrics off and on, i answered only based on observed facts. Now for motivation- I am not going to try and speak for nearly 800 million users on why they do not want to use it. @jayesh @iuculano https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/ee/ae/5beeae7addad62fa048771c7ac9c70db.jpg  Two conclusions I draw from that: * The demographic "people who are likely to read Kev Quirk's posts" is highly unrepresentative of the general population * The subset of that who choose to answer this poll, are self-selecting and therefore motivated by a particular answer and therefore unrepresentative of the former demographic @bignose so, conclusion: there's a built-in bias. @bignose I understand. I was just pointing out that polls such as these are meaningless, as they can be manipulated to mean anything one wants them to mean :)   @kev currently Android but considering switching to iPhone should it get a USB-C charging port. Still would live to play around with Linux phone to.  @kev @benjaminhollon @kev every person I know who has had an iPhone has had to upgrade at the end of the plan b/c the battery is shot. How are you getting 2nd hand use out of them? Do you buy them refurbished?  @kev I implemented my own cell phone stack in Emacs. Dialing is simple, just hit C-d C-T for the dial tone, then enter the hex values of the DTMF tones to dial each digit. Don't forget to prefix each phone number with 1, and to add parenthesis (use the ASCII values) around the area code. For help and examples, please see the online LaTex documentation, or download the ClarisWorks e-book. @kev I really like iOS in a lot of ways but I'm gonna have to switch to Android if it doesnt open up a bit. I'm almost sure Apple will already enable sideloading late this year to comply with DMA. And I hope I can finally use apps that werent allowed on the App Store before, e.g. Chromium browsers and it will finally allow more FOSS developers more freedom. iOS is a great platform for developers and also a great platform for people like me, who appreciate simplicity and continuity.  @GrahamDowns @kev I think iOS is just iOS, while with Android you can specify which ROM you're using. Many people here seem to want to note that they are not using stock ROMs but instead are using more privacy focused like lineage, calyx, /e/, or even graphene. @Optional @kev Yeah. Android (and Linux) provides SO many options. Which is one of the reasons why Android lovers love it. It's also one of the reasons why iOS lovers... don't. Because they don't want to have to THINK about options. They want something that "just works". Me? I like to tinker. To look under the hood. To understand, to modify, to customise. :-) I'm in the UK,  @kev iOS due to really poor experience with Android hardware in general across multiple brands   @kev Used to have a Jolla phone (Sailfish) and before that a Nokia N900 (Maemo). Now running a iPhone 12 mini as I want something that just works for everyday stuff. I do enough fscking around with computers at work (devops).    @kev cheap and cheesy android for work. Iphone without a connection for gaming in the loo.  @kev The Libertarian candidate, Other, seems to be siphoning votes away from Android and Apple. If no one gets 50% of the votes, it forces another runoff election in three weeks. |
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