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Tim Chambers

I'd agree with both of these items:

"If you're thinking of setting up a Masto server, please, please, do two things:

1. read up on what it was like to run a Usenet server. The dynamics are very similar in that you are responsible for policing your own users so that your server isn't blocked. Mastodon is Usenet with a REST API and a character limit.

2. (CW: dark, seriously dark) Read this recounting of what it was like to keep LiveJournal useable."

#Admin

metafilter.com/197381/waves-ne

23 comments
James Dreben :mw:

@tchambers wow sounds like a lot of work. Thanks for putting in the work and sharing these resources.

Vollans

@Tedspence @tchambers I miss the days of Usenet in the 90s. I made a lot of good friends back then.

Az_The nicest of the damned.

@stephen @Tedspence @tchambers For me it was Usenet and IRC Dalnet. Good times. Good times.

Tim Chambers

@Az_ @stephen @Tedspence

I think it is really fascinating the lessons learned from those past federated and open social efforts.

Vollans

@tchambers @Az_ @Tedspence and equally interesting all the lessons we failed to learn in the rush to webify everything. :/

Monica Cellio

@Tedspence @tchambers I used Usenet in the 80s and early 90s and it was great, some of my earliest online communities. But I never had to *run* it; I was just a participant.

(Also watched the takedown of what I understood to be the very first Usenet spammers; the community rallied.)

Todd on :mastodon: ain

@cellio @Tedspence @tchambers

I remember downloading these long conversations from a BBS and spending hours reading

Erikreadonly

@wtwagg @cellio @Tedspence @tchambers even better, printing them out on dot matrix so you can read them at school.

Todd on :mastodon: ain

@erikreadonly @cellio @Tedspence @tchambers

Oh no. I was reading them on my Amiga 500 and this was a BBS in a college town and was the first place I was able to read conversations from the Internet.

Monica Cellio

@wtwagg @erikreadonly @Tedspence @tchambers first access for me was the SF-lovers mailing list on the ARPANet (via a relay; students didn't have direct net access), read on the university's mainframe. From there, Usenet. Didn't own my own computer then, so no BBSs and no place to save files. If I wanted to keep something I printed it. I have a binder of printed email from my now-spouse, but that didn't happen until a lot later.

Monica Cellio

@tchambers for people who want to avoid "dark, seriously dark" LiveJournal early days, the author posted a followup thread about the bare minimum to look for in new sites. Lots to think about here: twitter.com/rahaeli/status/159 .

matt

@cellio @tchambers that's a seriously important thread. After you've soaked up the appetizers for _why_ these things need to be thought about, here's her guide for people thinking about running a Mastodon server\*:
denise.dreamwidth.org/91757.ht

\* Actually not Mastodon specific. The same concerns apply for any service under a domain you control that accepts content from other people.

matt

@cellio @tchambers it's a long read. Start with "End notes" to prioritize or weight what you pay attention to.

LoriWitzel

@tchambers Thank you Tim for all you do (much of which I canโ€™t even guess at - very grateful for your efforts and this instance!) For anyone so inclined, if you can, please join me as a Patreon donor here - patreon.com/indiewebsocial #indieweb #supportyouradmin #SmallWeb #smalltech #humanetech

sfunk1x

@tchambers I knew being a #fidonet coordinator would come in handy in the future! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ #bbs #remoteaccess #dbridge #echomail #nocarrier

Anders Thoresson

@tchambers @sfunk1x The only hashtag I missed there was #frontdoor. :)

(And canโ€™t really remember what dbridge was.)

sfunk1x

@anders @tchambers It was another #fidonet frontend. I don't remember why I switched, I think my relay was running the same setup so I copied them. I started out with #spitfire and #frontdoor though.

NotMyBub :mverified:

@sfunk1x Oh wow, I vaguely remember spitfire. Wasn't Remote Access the commercial one?

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