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Seirdy

New #blog post: The limited utility of the phrase “GNU/Linux”

Every now and then a fossbro tries to incorrect my terminology and insist I say “GNU/Linux” instead of “Linux”. I wrote this to save myself some time. Instead of engaging with the fossbro, I can just paste this link and wrap up the conversation while they read.

Excerpt:

“A specter is haunting the Linux community. Where lies productive discourse about operating systems, there also lies a danger. For the longer such discourse lasts, the greater the risk that the discourse shall be interrupted by The Interjection: an abomination brandished by a raging fossbro determined to contribute absolutely nothing to the discussion. The standard fossbro interjection begins:

‘I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.’

Sensible retorts, such as “Nobody asked you”, “Please leave us alone”, and “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” are useless defenses. Nay, the greatest weapon against misguided pedantry is pedantry itself.

Let’s talk about why not to use the term “GNU/Linux”.

3 comments
lunacb

@Seirdy Yeah, the term basically exists because RMS likes getting credit for things, as far as I can tell. There isn't an argument for it in modern linuxes. As for what's a GNU/linux as people use the term, I think it's basically synonymous with "linux distribution" (or meta-distribution), maybe with the added specification that it should contain primarily free software or separate free and non-free into different repositories.

I like "linux distributions" or just "linux" better.

グレェ「grey」

@lunacb Yeah, basically. Though I am LOLing at the idea of referring to RMS as a "fossbro".

RMS's insistence on usage goes back to at least 2000 with this friggin thing: gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html

Prior to that, it was extremely uncommon to hear anyone utter or write GNU/Linux as far as I recall? Just "Linux".

I also never recall hearing GNU/IRIX uttered even if maybe peeps ran gcc on IRIX?

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD (FreeBSD kernel, GNU userland) exists & I still know no one who uses it.

@Seirdy

@lunacb Yeah, basically. Though I am LOLing at the idea of referring to RMS as a "fossbro".

RMS's insistence on usage goes back to at least 2000 with this friggin thing: gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html

Prior to that, it was extremely uncommon to hear anyone utter or write GNU/Linux as far as I recall? Just "Linux".

lunacb

@byterhymer RMS is the original fossbro!

I wasn't around back before the turn of the millennia so I wouldn't know much about what happened then, that's even funnier though if they only tried to claim credit later

@Seirdy

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