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SmittyHalibut

@ravensview I'm only 47 and it's the Internet I remember. 'course, I've been BBSing since I was 12 so, I'm a bit nerdier than average. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Natasha Nox ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ

@smitty @ravensview I almost missed it being 30 years and from a small village, but yeah, the Fedi really feels somewhat like the Internet from my youth. Like... no ad-infested application, no algorithmically manipulated feed, just the raw thing you came to see. And I love it.

Now I just need a Matrix client looking like ICQ 5.1 - including War Sheeps, of course.

Dr Lisa Evans

@smitty I'm 47 as well, but didn't get started on the internet until the mid 90s. Ever since social media got started, it has always felt broken to me. The model was all wrong. Communities need open, free public spaces to congregate in. It's the way we human.

James Hilton ๐Ÿข

@lisae @smitty

I don't mean to sound elitist but... the normies need the internet monoliths and apps to make the internet usable. And that is fine, to an extent.

We were using the net in the 90s (and dial up BBS!) and I agree I have never 'got on' with FB/insta/twitter/tiktok

What makes me sad is that most users become entrapped by the likes of facebook, and never realise the true power.

eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/face

SmittyHalibut

@jimothy @lisae Iโ€™m willing to agree that many users want a slick UI and donโ€™t want to pay for it. But that doesnโ€™t have to require a walled garden. Gmail is that slick, free system, but I can still email gmail users from my halibut.com server.

Again, itโ€™s about federation.

James Hilton ๐Ÿข

@smitty @lisae

Totally agree with everything you say. It didn't need to end up this way and shouldn't have.

Unfortunately, huge swathes are now in those walled gardens, and the longer it goes on, the higher and higher the switching costs become. It's likely to become more common to be baked into hardware and OS.

I have no idea how it will play out though. I can't imagine the EU or FCC mandating federation or portability.

SmittyHalibut

@jimothy @lisae Iโ€™m not convinced itโ€™s too late. It feels like both Twitter and FB/Meta (the two worst offenders IMHO) are starting to crumble, both for different but similar reasons: clueless leadership. Itโ€™s happened before, that momentum takes a community away from a dominant player, but never a dominant player with such mass. That just means the motivation to move needs more force behind it. It feels like thatโ€™s beginning to happen now. One can hope anyway.

According To Dad

@lisae @smitty Remember AOL, CompuServe and USR Robotics 300 baud modems with the rubber telephone connection? The good old days. It was so much nicer and informed then. Let's hope this is our safe future. ( without AOL, CompuServe and 300 baud modems please!). I'm feeling revived and engaged.

Job

@lisae @smitty
> It's the way we human.

Not a bad slogan for the conviviality ideals of the fediverse :)

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