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Aral Balkan

@Gusted @dachary @humanetech “I’m looking for VC money, a few millions” – this, combined with the announcement yesterday, actually has me more worried.

It shows that either Lunny doesn’t understand what VC is or that there’s a desire to make a lot of money with Gitea in a way that isn’t compatible with being a community project.

“Enterprise version” plans are not great either. Just look at GitLab.

CodeBerg might want to consider sustaining their own fork while the codebase is still simple.

27 Oct 2022 at 9:07 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.ar.al
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Strypey

@aral
> “Enterprise version” plans are not great either.

I agree that they often haven't been. Perhaps because they've been approached as a way to generate monopoly profits, so source code for them is kept secret (either not published and therefore subject to trade secret protection not copyright), or published under a non-free license. But in practice, large orgs have different hosting needs from small ones, and having separate versions can address that.

@Gusted @dachary @humanetech

@aral
> “Enterprise version” plans are not great either.

I agree that they often haven't been. Perhaps because they've been approached as a way to generate monopoly profits, so source code for them is kept secret (either not published and therefore subject to trade secret protection not copyright), or published under a non-free license. But in practice, large orgs have different hosting needs from small ones, and having separate versions can address that.

27 Oct 2022 at 9:22 | Open on mastodon.nzoss.nz
Jens Finkhäuser

@aral @Gusted @dachary @humanetech I think a fork is a last resort. But of course that's a possibility.

27 Oct 2022 at 9:27 | Open on social.finkhaeuser.de
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@aral @Gusted @dachary @humanetech
@jwildeboer

Yes, it's very disturbing if they are accurately quoted.

VC money never seems to go well for community projects 😢

Either a project is openly all about money, in which case it shouldn't be taking unpaid contributions because that's exploitation.

Or a project *is* about volunteering and community spirit, in which case it shouldn't be taking VC money because that will destroy the community.

27 Oct 2022 at 9:42 | Open on mstdn.social
bhaugen

@feditips @aral @Gusted @dachary @humanetech @jwildeboer

Effects of VC money on one project I worked on:
The VC explained that their investors expected a return on their investment that was larger than what they could get from safer investments,. They got the project to spend money on facilities and sales and marketing people. Then they decided they would not get enuf profits so they cut them off, but because of the VC-led ongoing expenses, the project was unsustainable and folded.

27 Oct 2022 at 11:53 | Open on social.coop
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@aral @Gusted @dachary @humanetech @jwildeboer

p.s. Just to be clear, I'm not objecting to projects having grants or sponsors or donations! The FOSS world definitely needs more of these.

But VCs aren't donations, they're owners who demand profits even if it fundamentally changes the nature of the thing they own. The motivations and the strings attached to VC deals are the problem.

27 Oct 2022 at 14:25 | Open on mstdn.social
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