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tired: memento mori tattoo
wired: IATA PERISHABLE shipping label tattoo

6 Mar 2022 at 4:12 | Open on friend.camp
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kit

just emailed a hundred year old czech painter to ask if he designed the perishable label

6 Mar 2022 at 4:35 | Open on friend.camp
kit

i'm gonna be so bummed out if it turns out that henry dreyfuss designed it

6 Mar 2022 at 4:41 | Open on friend.camp
kit

the son of the hundred year old IATA designer says he doesn't think it is his father's work but he's in touch with one of his father's colleagues who might know

6 Mar 2022 at 20:56 | Open on friend.camp
kit

just googled "iata henry dreyfuss" again and the first result was this post lol

21 Jul 2022 at 3:35 | Open on friend.camp
kit

I just got out my copy of Dreyfuss's 1972 "Symbol Sourcebook" which I thought I had checked months ago and it turns out it's in there! "Symbol Sourcebook" is a big book of symbols and for each section Dreyfuss has a bibliography and for the Material Handling section, there are several potential sources but the most likely looking to me is either the ANSI "Pictorial Markings for Handling of Goods" or its ISO counterpart
21 Jul 2022 at 4:09 | Open on friend.camp
kit

so the symbol is at least from 1968 if not earlier! Dreyfuss does attribute some things in the book to himself but he doesn't in the Material Handling section so it's not clear if he was involved in the production of the ANSI symbols or not. in 1971 he did some different work for ANSI which means that me googling "henry dreyfuss ansi" isn't gonna get me super far on this question probably!

21 Jul 2022 at 4:28 | Open on friend.camp
kit

i haven't found any other references online to the 1968 version of ANSI MH6.1 but carnegie mellon apparently has a copy of the 1972 in their library and hey what if i went to pittsburgh? that's like only an eight hour drive from here

21 Jul 2022 at 4:32 | Open on friend.camp
kit

it is not included in ISO 7000, "Graphic symbols for use on equipment" (unlike a lot of common material handling symbols) but there are some bangers in there like 2416, "Protection against chain saw"

iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:pub:PUB400
21 Jul 2022 at 11:06 | Open on friend.camp
kit

ISO 780:1997 does NOT include the perishable symbol. i have been taken for a FOOL. looking like the perishable symbol may be an ANSI MH6.1 thing only?

22 Jul 2022 at 0:18 | Open on friend.camp
kit replied to kit

after several emails with various standards-authoring organizations, I haven't yet found any contemporary standard that includes the perishable label. It may be a non-standard label!

also i discovered this fun little guy this morning:
27 Jul 2022 at 14:12 | Open on friend.camp
kit replied to kit

UPDATE: I tracked down a copy of ANSI MH6.1-1968, "Pictorial Markings for Handling of Goods" at the Linda Hall Library in Kansas City and (once we got copyright permission from ANSI) they scanned it for me. It's a cool old document but it did not contain the PERISHABLE symbol.

With ANSI MH6.1 out of the running, there is one remaining likely candidate in the bibliography from Henry Dreyfuss's 1972 "Symbols Sourcebook" and that is a system of signs Herbert Lindinger made or compiled for Olivetti

6 Aug 2022 at 20:27 | Open on friend.camp
kit replied to kit

I emailed the Olivetti Archives a couple weeks ago and have not heard back. I have been looking for information on Herbert Lindinger and it looks like he may still be alive! Or if he died, nobody has updated his wikipedia page.

I have not found a contact for him yet but have emailed a German university he was associated with to see if they have any way to contact him.

What if this is the designer of the label and he is still alive??

6 Aug 2022 at 20:30 | Open on friend.camp
kit replied to kit

found his website and holy shit he designed everything from trains and buses to computer fonts to corporate logos (like mont blanc) and it looks like he and his team even designed the all the greatest hits from ISO 780 like the FRAGILE wine glass, the KEEP DRY umbrella, and the THIS SIDE UP double arrow. didn't see the PERISHABLE symbol on his website but I just sent him an email about it.

please check out his web page; it's rad as hell
lindingerdesign.de/cms/index.p

found his website and holy shit he designed everything from trains and buses to computer fonts to corporate logos (like mont blanc) and it looks like he and his team even designed the all the greatest hits from ISO 780 like the FRAGILE wine glass, the KEEP DRY umbrella, and the THIS SIDE UP double arrow. didn't see the PERISHABLE symbol on his website but I just sent him an email about it.

6 Aug 2022 at 21:03 | Open on friend.camp
Liaizon Wakest replied to kit

@kit omg this whole thread is magnificent

6 Aug 2022 at 21:45 | Open on social.wake.st
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK replied to Liaizon

@liaizon @kit

I was a kid in the 70s and it seemed to be a boom time for graphic design (especially that used on public infrastructure)..

Also worth a look at is the work of Margaret Calvert from Britain, who designed many fonts used on British transport related infrastructure and the current set of road signs which are still seen by everyone in the UK today

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret

6 Aug 2022 at 22:13 | Open on social.tchncs.de
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