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Just finished the construction of my new 8/20 μs impulse generator. Its output surge should be in compliance with IEC 61000-4-5 now, but I haven't checked it yet. Need to get some sleep and continue the test tomorrow. Working with lethal voltage at midnight is definitely not a good idea...

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niconiconi replied to niconiconi

My impulse generator's current output failed to meet the standard waveform requirement. The rise time is 50% too short. I think I didn't wind that inductor correctly. Just ordered a simple LCR meter to continue the experiment (trimming an inductor with a oscilloscope or VNA is just too awkward).

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

I found the solution for switching 2000 volts - two thyristors in series should be able to handle it. I was worriying about off-state leakage current due to voltage balancing resistors in the original capacitor discharging circuit. But this problem disappears in the standard 8/20 μs impulse generator, it already has two 20 Ω resistive loads, this diverts leakage mostly to the ground instead of the load, making the series switch connection feasible again.

Capacitor size and cost are still the problem. Using non-pulse rated capacitors is perhaps an acceptable workaround if I'm willing to replace them once in a while. A lifetime of 10,000 shots is practically infinite for my purpose.

I found the solution for switching 2000 volts - two thyristors in series should be able to handle it. I was worriying about off-state leakage current due to voltage balancing resistors in the original capacitor discharging circuit. But this problem disappears in the standard 8/20 μs impulse generator, it already has two 20 Ω resistive loads, this diverts leakage mostly to the ground instead of the load, making the series switch connection feasible again.

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

LCR meter arrived, indeed, the inductor I winded was 50% too low. I pushed the windings together while looking at the readings, within 10 seconds I brought it within design specification.

Time for a test... Then I immediately blow the entire circuit up by connecting 200 V to 5 V input... ⚡💥 :doge:

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

Success, the output waveform of my 8/20 μs impulse generator prototype is now IEC 61000-4-5 compliant!

Peak current: 200 A
Front time: 7.05 μs
Duration: 21.24 μs

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

The only problem I need to solve now is that the entire circuit exploded after firing the first shot. ⚡💥 I believe it was the same mistake and failure mode - the thyristor was wired as a high-side switch this time deliberately for convenience. As soon as the thyristor is turned on, the gate voltage rises to 500 volts.

I thought the transistor was protected by the new diode I added in series, but no, it's again a n00b mistake. The base-collector junction of a BJT is also a diode, and you can't connect any diodes in series without an RC snubber to balance the voltage. Without balancing, series diodes simply break down one after another.

The only problem I need to solve now is that the entire circuit exploded after firing the first shot. ⚡💥 I believe it was the same mistake and failure mode - the thyristor was wired as a high-side switch this time deliberately for convenience. As soon as the thyristor is turned on, the gate voltage rises to 500 volts.

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

New plan: abusing a MOSFET gate driver to drive a SCR's gate to get high-side switching. Now I need to figure out how much Common Mode Transient Immunity do I need. My circuit is *literally* a surge generator.

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

CMTI: 100 kV/μs. Oh, it's more than enough...

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

Rewired the isolated DC-DC converter to float on top of the high voltage instead of ground. No more explosions, even a small-signal transistor can drive the gate with ease.

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

Look at my gate turn-on waveform... Man-made horrors beyond comprehension.

niconiconi replied to niconiconi

In electronics, everything is an LC resonator if your layout is bad enough.

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