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ninavizz

@eloquence Sure, but my social community will never come here because it's too hard to find folks across federated servers. It requires too much work—which goes against human nature.

I agree, federation matters—and, we also have to meet humanity where it's at. Which regrettably, is a low place of laziness and entitlement r/n.

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Dan doesn't get it

@ninavizz @eloquence I have been wishing this weren't true for seven years, but sadly it is. you're right. the steep step to entering the fediverse demonstrably keeps most people out. denying that provable fact just balkanizes us more.

Erik Moeller

@ninavizz

For sure, though the gap isn't as big as it might seem, IMO -- fediverse development just doesn't benefit from VC or blockchain funding to address known shortcomings faster, but both the Mastodon project and other fedi apps/servers _are_ getting better.

For now, I'll take it as a win when orgs phase out legacy social media links in favor of Bluesky _and_ Mastodon. Bluesky for quick/easy adoption; Mastodon for folks willing to try something fundamentally new with some added hurdles.

Jiří Eischmann

@ninavizz @eloquence It looks like Bluesky hasn't met humanity where it's at either. Since the peak after the election its activity has been in steady decline (from 7.5m to 4m daily posts).
Companies like Meta and TikTok are pouring billions into making their platforms easy and addictive. It's super hard to come up with something that can actually compete with it and doesn't have all the cons.

Strypey

@ninavizz
> my social community will never come here because it's too hard to find folks across federated servers. It requires too much work

Can you (or they) explain exactly what work it requires and why it's hard?

Those doing development have often been here a long time. A lot of missing stairs have been replaced, and we know intuitively where any remaining ones are, so we're biased to see things as obvious and easy.

Further improvement requires friendly but detailed feedback.

@eloquence

@ninavizz
> my social community will never come here because it's too hard to find folks across federated servers. It requires too much work

Can you (or they) explain exactly what work it requires and why it's hard?

Those doing development have often been here a long time. A lot of missing stairs have been replaced, and we know intuitively where any remaining ones are, so we're biased to see things as obvious and easy.

Strypey

The current experience of Mastodon is just the toe in the water of what can and will be done, to overlap and intertwingle the various social media forms currently ossified into platform monoliths, and their clones (eg Mastodon and most current fediverse software, notable exceptions include GoToSocial and ActivityPods).

#fediverse #Mastodon

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